Could this be a copper 1943 wheat penny?

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  • airplanenut
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    Let's put something into perspective. You're a new collector. You decided people on this forum were a good source of information. Everyone who replied to you (including an expert the grading companies use as a consultant) had a unanimous opinion. Since the opinion doesn't make you rich, you now think you know better than everyone here.

    I'm all for new collectors asking questions and learning, but... good luck.

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  • Jimnight
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    Hey ... there's nothing wrong with dreaming.

  • NumisOxide
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    Spend it.

  • Catbert
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    @Jimnight said:
    Hey ... there's nothing wrong with dreaming.

    Hey...there's nothing right about delusion. ;)

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  • bowtechredneck
    bowtechredneck Posts: 32 ✭
    edited October 7, 2020 8:44AM
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    I decided to try my luck at buying my first coin roll advertise with Indian Head Enders off of eBay well I went through the all the coins and was satisfied with what I got but I came across this penny I couldn't read the date so I cleaned it with a little bit of extra virgin olive oil and with a flashlight I was able to take this picture it looks like 1943 to me what do you guys think?

  • FredWeinberg
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    Not a 1943 Dated coin

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  • ifthevamzarockin
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    Welcome to the forum! :)

  • AlanSki
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    FYI... 99.999% of the time those rolls have already been searched through and are modern paper roll reproductions used to scam people.

  • bowtechredneck
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    Consider the damage extra metal or mint in wrong location or just mint error the little holes have rings around them guess from corrosion could destort the 3 to look like a 5 im sure the wheat pennies had already have been gone through but this coin was really dirty and they must have missed it and you couldn't hardly tell the date I still can't really tell the date after cleaning it a little with extra virgin olive oil I was able to use a flashlight to take this picture and this is what we shiny I could take more pictures I would just like some expert opinions to see if it's worth getting more look into

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  • joeykoins
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    Just a teaser. I come across many "teaser" coins in my life to make you think you have the real deal, when in fact, you don't. Lol. On with the hunt! :)

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  • crazyhounddog
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    Welcome to the forum and I feel bad for that Lincoln cent.

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  • hatchet
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    Looks like 49 or 47

  • 291fifth
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    Don't waste your money on online auctions like that. The coin you picture is just damaged junk.

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  • Hydrant
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    EUREKA!

  • Tibor
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    If I were selling that roll I would be ashamed of myself for including that coin.

  • WillieBoyd2
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    The coin looks like one that I have but mine is an ancient Roman coin 1,800 years old.

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  • Jimnight
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    WOW!!

  • ricko
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    @bowtechredneck.... Welcome aboard. That is not a 1943 copper cent. You may not realize it, but @FredWeinberg is an error expert and works with our host. You received top notch information from him. Cheers, RickO

  • bowtechredneck
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    Update bought a usb microscope ok obviously this is a mint error not dirty but i still think its 1943 look at these photos the one were the color change made the date darker clearly shows the design and shape of a three


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  • MsMorrisine
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    there is no descender in your picture. it is not a "3." It is not a "9."

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  • astrorat
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    Welcome to the Board. Unfortunately, you do not have a 1943 bronze (copper) cent.

    But since you are convinced you do, I recommend sending the coin to a third-party grading company, like PCGS, for certification and grading. It will only cost you some time and money, but that's nothing compared to the value of a real 1943 bronze cent!

    And when PCGS tells you that your coin is not a rare error, you can repeat the process with NGC ... then ANACS ... then IGC.

    Or ... you could accept the responses you have on from the Board members, most of whom are well qualified to comment on your coin.

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  • mr1931S
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    I feel bad for that Lincoln cent.

    OP should just bury the coin in his garden. I think plants can use some copper as a nutrient.

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  • Kliao
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    Nope. Looks like a badly damaged 1940 to me.

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  • Oldhoopster
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    @bowtechredneck said:
    Update bought a usb microscope ok obviously this is a mint error not dirty but i still think its 1943 look at these photos the one were the color change made the date darker clearly shows the design and shape of a three!

    @bowtechredneck If you disagree with opinions of the members on here, your next steps would be to send it to a third party grading company (like PCGS) for authentication. You received a number of opinions from experienced numismatists stating your coin is damaged, and unless you have it authenticated, you’ll have the same issues again and again if you ever want to sell it as genuine.

    One thing you should consider is that the 1943 copper cent is rare and many fakes exist, so if the TPG thinks it might be authentic (which I don’t think they will), they will send it to error coin experts for confirmation. One of those experts already posted that the coin is damaged. That just saved you $60+ in fees. However, if you still feel strongly that the opinions on this thread are incorrect, send it for authentication.

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  • Coinscratch
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    Even if it was it isn't anymore.
    Its a 45

  • CoinHoarder
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    edited October 26, 2020 8:46AM
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  • JBK
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    Why is it that super rare varieties/errors so often appear on such heavily damaged coins? :o:D

    Inexperience + defiance is a bad mix. :/

    Maybe we need a special forum where people don't give opinions but rather just agree with whatever the original posters want to believe. :)

  • OldEastside
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    Well the odds of it being a copper 43 are astronomical but there is a chance and if it was it could bring a kerjillion in some currency in mint condition, However in that condition you may find appraisals anywhere from $ -15.00 to $0.01
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  • fiftysevener
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    Isn't this what they call parking lot damage ? Looks like scraping aginst loose sand or gravel.

  • Danno44
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    IMO the OP is neck deep with Pareidolia..

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  • justmenutty72
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    @bowtechredneck said:
    Update bought a usb microscope ok obviously this is a mint error not dirty but i still think its 1943 look at these photos the one were the color change made the date darker clearly shows the design and shape of a three


    Dude, your eyes are playing tricks with you. It’s called pareidolia. And it’s not a mint error. Just a beat up wheat penny, about 2-3 cents worth of copper.

  • ifthevamzarockin
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    20 month old thread bumped by emerald for no good reason. :D

  • emeraldATV
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    Glitch in the matrix . Gitchee gitchee.

  • Paradisefound
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    Is it weed on the reverse?

  • Paradisefound
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    ttt by me 😳

    @ifthevamzarockin said:
    20 month old thread bumped by emerald for no good reason. :D

  • Paradisefound
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    Sorry guy!

  • ifthevamzarockin
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    @Paradisefound said:
    Is it weed on the reverse?

    I think it's more like weed on the brain. ;):D

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