1974-D 1C Die Cap? Would love some opinions.
Avery
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Hi Everbody,
I found this coin in a 1974-D roll from the Denver Branch Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. All of the coins were 1974-D, so I am assuming that this coin is a 1974-D. I would like to get your opinions and any information about this coin. Thank you to all in advance.
🦋Avery
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FredWeinberg
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Looks like it's struck from a very very thinned out
Capped Die.Early strikes would show the brockage effect of a
previously struck coin sticking to the upper/top Die,
and striking coins till it falls off, or a press operator
sees' the errors, and stops the press.Because there isn't much at all showing, I'd say
(as I did above) Struck From Thinning Die Cap.Others might have other opinions and thoughts.
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Here's the roll it came from
Looks good, for a beginning new collector you are on a roll!
Our new member @Avery also has another good find on the Q&A forum.
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1044668/new-to-collecting-new-to-forum-question-regarding-1970-s-ddo-1c-lg-date-coin-that-i-found#latest
Thanks, it is nice to hear that a couple of my coins that I thought to be a find, are actually alright. Also, thank you for the shout out.☺️ But, I am not doing so hot at posting quite yet. I meant for this one to be in Q & A. That's where it should be, right?
You are okay here with this coin.
At least it is not a parking lot find that is worth a million dollars.
You could drag your other Q&A photos to this thread if you want.
Let me know if you need help
@Avery.... Nice find, definitely an error coin. Certainly appropriate to post here on this forum. Cheers, RickO
Actually, looking again at the photos,
it was struck thru a thinning unstruck
Planchet, not a previously struck coin.
My error....
Nice find!
try to match up the reverse polish/gouge lines from the error to the other coins to lock it in. keep a few for comparison.
Yes, it would be really neat if you had 1974-D cents with reverse die markers that match the error coin.
If so, it would also be neat to have the error coin certified with one of the others, as a pair, and the TPG could use the normal 1974-D cent to date the error.
Dumb question for Fred. How do you have an unstruck planchet stuck to the obverse die? To be stuck to that die, didn’t it have to be struck by it?
My thought as well, unless two planchets were fed into the striking area and one got capped.
Great idea. I wonder if any microscopic die polish lines can be identified on the cap and the normal cents from the roll.
ifthevamzarockin, I don't know how to drag the photos from the other thread. I would need your instruction. I uploaded them from my computer for now.
Thanks to the everyone for your advise. JBK, Great idea! I have the roll it came from, I will see if I can match up the reverse die markers. I will let you know what I find.
Also, the coin above I found last year about three months into my new found hobby that I absolutely love!
Everybody, have an excellent day! And, thanks again!
Very cool! If you have another coin in the same roll with the same die scratches on the reverse keep it with that coin to prove that it is a 1974-D. Those are very distinct and will be unquestionably from the same die. Would be a cool double coin holder if sent together to PCGS.
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I took another look at the pics and there are indeed many die polish lines that would seem to prove a match if you have another from the roll.
@FredWeinberg how would that work? Would PCGS accept this evidence and slab the die cap with a date? Would/could a double slab be arranged to include the "evidence"?
To @Avery - definitely keep one or two dated examples regardless.
This would seem to be the one that got through. If struck through a thinning unstruck planchet, there should be more of the same. If that's an original roll (solid date, common die markers on the reverse), there would be a good chance of multiples in the roll, provided those additional coins were all the size and shape of a normal cent.
At any rate, great find!
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Nice find!
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
Thanks for the advice, I will post a pic when I match up the coin to others in the roll. It would be very cool if PCGS determined it was in fact a 1974-D by evidence of the other coins. I actually have two more unopened rolls from the same bank and the same date 1974-D. Maybe I will find another error coin? What are the chances of that happening? Messydesk, you're thinking maybe, yes? I'll keep you posted after I check them today. 🤞🏼
I believe that at that time cents were packaged in bags of 5000 cents by the mint and shipped out that way. The banks or armored car companies rolled them. So, you might not fund another capped cent, but the odds are far better than for rolls not from this group.
Hope you find the other coin it was capped with, that would be a cool matching set!
Can't believe there has not been more comments on your 1970 s , that is a rare coin in any grade and a great coin roll find.
Definite maybe. No guarantee, of course, but the thinned die cap struck more coins than just the one you found. If they could be rolled, they probably were.
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That's ok, Fred. The pro "error" man that you are. Are most certainly allowed to make an error every now and then. Lol
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--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.The 70-S DDO is an astounding find, very rare, easily worth more than this capped die cent I would think. I still need a 70-S DDO for my collection in fact- most collectors do also.
Here's the CoinFacts:
https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1970-s-1c-doubled-die-obverse-large-date-bn/92937
It's also way cool to see a roll-fresh, bright red and lustrous capped die cent.
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