US Mint unveils new reverse designs for American Silver and Gold Eagles

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  • LGTheCoinAnalyst
    LGTheCoinAnalyst Posts: 53 ✭✭✭
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    For me the silver was not my top choice but I can certainly live with it. The gold choice is bold and excellent and has the advantage of being scalable for the smaller gold coins.

  • joeykoins
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    Nice. No more Shield, just Eagle. ;)

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  • Mgarmy
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    I wish both had the design of the gold

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  • Jimnight
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    Thanks for the link.

  • MsMorrisine
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    white black and gray scales do not appear on a coin, they need to have sketches without such.

    it's sometimes hard to tell how the designs will play out on a real coin. I wish they'd make a pattern coin (they call them "nonsense coins") and photo that. The general artwork and concepts look ok.

    that said, the leg-to-body connection on the ASE needs work. for starters, a line between the fully visible leg is odd looking.

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  • cmerlo1
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    It might make it just a bit easier to make 70, now that that shield and it's top aren't there, right in the middle of the reverse.

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  • cagcrisp
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    The Gold works for me. Now if we could just get the Mint to sell Direct and issue a Gold Bullion 1/20 oz. that is AFFORDABLE direct to consumer...

  • Tetromibi
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    https://www.usmint.gov/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/American_Eagle_pressRelease.png

  • johnny9434
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    i like the looks of the gold coin

  • ricko
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    Interesting designs.... Not sure what they will look like on metal though.... I hope, the image on metal will look even better....Cheers, RickO

  • MilesWaits
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    Agreed. I like the gold design. The silver design looks like other eagles i have seen on other coins. Nothing special there.
    I am glad they chose that design for the higher dollar eagle.

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  • MsMorrisine
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    maybe they could make the proof and uncirculated numismatic issues with high relief.

    I also expect a high initial demand for the new designs... at least for the numismatics.... although I could be wrong. The demand for graded bullion coins would be a potential indicator of initial numismatic demand.

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  • LGTheCoinAnalyst
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    2021 is the 35th anniv, and I have been suggesting they do a high relief for that event for years.

  • LGTheCoinAnalyst
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    The press release notes which artists designed and which sculpted the designs, so let's see images of the sculpts which would give us a better idea of the actual coins.

  • MsMorrisine
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    edited October 1, 2020 12:30PM
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    I'd like to see sculptures if they can't do pattern coins.... although some designs are digitally sculpted now.

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  • messydesk
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    @derryb said:
    can't wait to find a 2021 with reverse of 2020.

    Sounds like that's the plan. New designs are supposed to start showing up mid-year. A full set of 2021 Silver eagles with both reverses could be an entire box of 20 after they get done with all the assorted finishes. My Dansco ends at 2021 with only one port, so I'll have to start adding pages.

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  • bramn8r
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    The ASE reverse looks weak, bad sketch. Not impressed.

  • kiyote
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  • fathom
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    Thanks for the heads up.

    Let see what they look like in relief.

  • blitzdude
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    @messydesk said:

    @derryb said:
    can't wait to find a 2021 with reverse of 2020.

    Sounds like that's the plan. New designs are supposed to start showing up mid-year. A full set of 2021 Silver eagles with both reverses could be an entire box of 20 after they get done with all the assorted finishes. My Dansco ends at 2021 with only one port, so I'll have to start adding pages.

    So are they going to issue 2021 coins the first half of the year with the old reverse and then switch over mid year or can we expect no 2021 eagles at all until mid year?

    The new gold reverse is nice the silver not so much. I wasn't really a fan of either of the current reverses.

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  • Jimnight
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    I don't care for either of them.

  • blitzdude
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    @blitzdude said:

    @messydesk said:

    @derryb said:
    can't wait to find a 2021 with reverse of 2020.

    Sounds like that's the plan. New designs are supposed to start showing up mid-year. A full set of 2021 Silver eagles with both reverses could be an entire box of 20 after they get done with all the assorted finishes. My Dansco ends at 2021 with only one port, so I'll have to start adding pages.

    So are they going to issue 2021 coins the first half of the year with the old reverse and then switch over mid year or can we expect no 2021 eagles at all until mid year?

    The new gold reverse is nice the silver not so much. I wasn't really a fan of either of the current reverses.


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  • MsMorrisine
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    such detail.... that won't be on the coin...

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  • TurtleCat
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    It’s not for me. At least not until I see it in front of me.

  • Goldminers
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    I really wish it was a salmon, dripping wet, in its grasp, instead of an oak tree branch "as if to add it to a nest"?

    I sort of liked the 13 arrows next to an olive branch for peace that were the standards used for the Eagle on the Great Seal of the US.

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  • ms70
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    Boring.

  • Bullsitter
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  • jmski52
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    I think they both look respectable.

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  • TwoSides2aCoin
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    Now colorize them :joy:

  • MsMorrisine
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    what?! no thought of a hologram?

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  • 291fifth
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    Both are very standard modern US Mint designs. No originality at all. They are fine for a commercial product (which is what the bullion coins are) but have little artistic merit.

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  • coinhack
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    The gold design is very nice.

    There are lots of nice eagle designs. Why not change the eagle every year? Every year would be a one year type coin but the series would be tied together. Don't care much for this year's design? Well just wait for next year.

    That would make this a collectable series and not just bullion. I can't believe they will let this opportunity slip through their fingers. On second thought, I guess I can.

  • BryceM
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    Nice enough concept. The execution in metal remains to be seen.

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  • messydesk
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    Compare with the current design, which is sterile and stiff. The oak branch actually ties the obverse and reverse together a little. I'm not a fan of the flat field, but I guess they need to have a design that is easy to make cameo, reverse cameo, multi-finish "enhanced" surfaces, and perhaps colorized surfaces. Doing something interesting with the negative space makes that more difficult. I have an additional problem with the typography. Two different typefaces on the silver, a third on the gold. Hopefully they unify them.

    I'd really like them to make the obverse more modern. It's a great, classic design, but let's see what an modern artist can do with it (and not just the Zombucks Walker). Think of how the Britannia design has been modernized. Also, pose Liberty a bit more naturally. Her torso is way too twisted.

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  • PerryHall
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    I always liked the current "family of eagles" design on the reverse of the AGE. :)

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  • carew4me
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    I think the Silver Australian Wedge Tail Eagles look better than this.
    What does this mean from the Coin Week article?
    "The gold coin obverse will display a refreshed depiction of the 1907 design by renowned sculptor Augustus Saint-Gaudens, while the obverse of the silver coin will display a refreshed depiction of the 1916 “Walking Liberty” design by famed sculptor Adolph A. Weinman.

    does this mean Walking Liberty in yoga pants and curlers?


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  • LGTheCoinAnalyst
    LGTheCoinAnalyst Posts: 53 ✭✭✭
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    That was in the mint's press release. Not clear what it means, but I suspect they mean minor tweaking similar to how Mercanti made some minor modifications to the current ASE obverse to make the coins strike better with modern coin presses. You can read about it in his book with Michael Standish.

  • LGTheCoinAnalyst
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    The most recent Canadian bald eagle with a truly stunning UHR head is the kind of the thing they should do for the 35th anniversary AGE, though I don't know if our mint can produce that degree of relief.

  • santinidollar
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    Thumbs down from this humble narrator. They look like drawings, just like most of the Mint’s recent designs.

  • LGTheCoinAnalyst
    LGTheCoinAnalyst Posts: 53 ✭✭✭
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    They are drawings! That's always the starting point for any design.

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