I will wager this received a 4 mainly for the rounded corner on the bottom right. With that said, finding a centered 1961 Fleer Jerry West is about as tough as it gets. Beautiful card.
No it isn't. What I mean is that I believe he is showing it because it's a PSA 6. He did ask for a guess though, so I will say 5 or 5.5
The reason I believe he is showing us a PSA 6 is that I've subbed a few of these, and they always came back just slightly better than I thought they would. I'm sure it doesn't, but I've always felt that this card gets a tiny bit of leeway in the grading room.
Now that I've said all that I'm sure the reveal will be a PSA 3.
No it isn't. What I mean is that I believe he is showing it because it's a PSA 6. He did ask for a guess though, so I will say 5 or 5.5
The reason I believe he is showing us a PSA 6 is that I've subbed a few of these, and they always came back just slightly better than I thought they would. I'm sure it doesn't, but I've always felt that this card gets a tiny bit of leeway in the grading room.
Now that I've said all that I'm sure the reveal will be a PSA 3.
Here is a copy of my PSA 4. I seriously doubt it is a 6. If it is a PSA 6 I need to send my PSA 4 back in. Regardless of the grade it is a sweet looking West rookie.
For the PSA 4 example above, that's a great looking 4! Some surface issues such as minor scratches and paper wrinkles, but eye appeal is very high on that one
The result is: I was hoping for a 6, happy with a 5 but very disappointed that it is a 4. Apparently PSA only cares about corners when grading cards like this. All 4 corners have touches, but none jump out at you and the centering, surface etc are flawless, When you look at other 4’s with 90/10 centering, rounded/dinged corners, bad surfaces and compare them to this one I just have to shake my head. It is what it is. I did have some good news, on the same sub I sent in 3 broken out 7’s and they came back 8, 8, and 8.5. Anyone think it is a good idea to break out the West and resubmit?
PSA 4 almost always means a surface issue. Sometimes the issue is not really visible once in the slab. I've had a few with very minor scuffing that is only visible under magnification.
@ElvisP said:
The result is: I was hoping for a 6, happy with a 5 but very disappointed that it is a 4. Apparently PSA only cares about corners when grading cards like this. All 4 corners have touches, but none jump out at you and the centering, surface etc are flawless, When you look at other 4’s with 90/10 centering, rounded/dinged corners, bad surfaces and compare them to this one I just have to shake my head. It is what it is. I did have some good news, on the same sub I sent in 3 broken out 7’s and they came back 8, 8, and 8.5. Anyone think it is a good idea to break out the West and resubmit?
As far as cracking it out and subbing I think you run a real risk of card coming back min size req. 61 fleers are known for being short. If it were me I would keep it as is and enjoy it. The risk reward on cracking this one out favors more risk in my opinion.
@ElvisP said:
The result is: I was hoping for a 6, happy with a 5 but very disappointed that it is a 4. Apparently PSA only cares about corners when grading cards like this. All 4 corners have touches, but none jump out at you and the centering, surface etc are flawless, When you look at other 4’s with 90/10 centering, rounded/dinged corners, bad surfaces and compare them to this one I just have to shake my head. It is what it is. I did have some good news, on the same sub I sent in 3 broken out 7’s and they came back 8, 8, and 8.5. Anyone think it is a good idea to break out the West and resubmit?
As far as cracking it out and subbing I think you run a real risk of card coming back min size req. 61 fleers are known for being short. If it were me I would keep it as is and enjoy it. The risk reward on cracking this one out favors more risk in my opinion.
Yes I think you are right. There is always a risk with these cards of the dreaded min. size. Like yours if we ever want to sell them they should bring a premium for the centering and eye appeal. Like they say buy the card not the holder. 👍
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Note the 2 tiny white dots are not there, must be the light/shadows. I will tell you the surface is flawless. The back is also clean.
Assuming it was graded recently, a really, really nice 5. Possibly with MC qualifier because it has blue borders on both sides of the reverse.
My guess would be 5.
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5 on most days, the two bottom corners could push it to 4.5 on a bad day.
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PSA 6.
Not what I think, just what I believe it is.
Is that a Yogi-ism?
I will wager this received a 4 mainly for the rounded corner on the bottom right. With that said, finding a centered 1961 Fleer Jerry West is about as tough as it gets. Beautiful card.
No it isn't. What I mean is that I believe he is showing it because it's a PSA 6. He did ask for a guess though, so I will say 5 or 5.5
The reason I believe he is showing us a PSA 6 is that I've subbed a few of these, and they always came back just slightly better than I thought they would. I'm sure it doesn't, but I've always felt that this card gets a tiny bit of leeway in the grading room.
Now that I've said all that I'm sure the reveal will be a PSA 3.
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PSA 4 at best. lIkely a 3.5.
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What is going on with the back? Is that serious edge wear or staining in the blue?
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Barring any surface issues that can't be seen in your pic, 5.
Andy
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Here is a copy of my PSA 4. I seriously doubt it is a 6. If it is a PSA 6 I need to send my PSA 4 back in. Regardless of the grade it is a sweet looking West rookie.
3.5 or 4 Nice card.
I'd guess between 4 - 5 on the OP
For the PSA 4 example above, that's a great looking 4! Some surface issues such as minor scratches and paper wrinkles, but eye appeal is very high on that one
The result is: I was hoping for a 6, happy with a 5 but very disappointed that it is a 4. Apparently PSA only cares about corners when grading cards like this. All 4 corners have touches, but none jump out at you and the centering, surface etc are flawless, When you look at other 4’s with 90/10 centering, rounded/dinged corners, bad surfaces and compare them to this one I just have to shake my head. It is what it is. I did have some good news, on the same sub I sent in 3 broken out 7’s and they came back 8, 8, and 8.5. Anyone think it is a good idea to break out the West and resubmit?
Is there a wrinkle on the right edge going to the S in Angels?
Might be why? hard to see
Card is nice though
ACTUALLY. I see a crease bottom right boarder close to the armpit but does not reach it. Like 1 1/2 cm long from the edge.
PSA 4 almost always means a surface issue. Sometimes the issue is not really visible once in the slab. I've had a few with very minor scuffing that is only visible under magnification.
My 67 year old eyes are getting too old for this. That is why at this point I will probably only purchase already graded cards.
Card has a wrinkle and is accurately graded. Will get a premium for centering for sure.
I guess 5. It's a nice looking card but the corners seem frayed to me.
Handyman, I think you are looking at jbrules card that he posted, not mine.
Very likely a surface issue. Perhaps, a tiny scratch or wrinkle. Also, the chipping on the left edge may be more serious than my eyes can detect.
Andy
How about the big reveal?
PSA 5 MC
As far as cracking it out and subbing I think you run a real risk of card coming back min size req. 61 fleers are known for being short. If it were me I would keep it as is and enjoy it. The risk reward on cracking this one out favors more risk in my opinion.
It was posted 8 posts above yours, you missed it, lol. It was a 4.
Yes I think you are right. There is always a risk with these cards of the dreaded min. size. Like yours if we ever want to sell them they should bring a premium for the centering and eye appeal. Like they say buy the card not the holder. 👍
@ElvisP Sorry, I was looking for another photo. Nice card, congrats.