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As if he needed more money to buy coins, DL Hansen is being forced to sell his soccer teams. Link below.
Back in the 1980’s, the magazine M published an article about 10 civilized men (Prince Charles, Peter Jennings, Lawrence Olivier, etc) and ten uncivilized men (namely Sylvester Stallone). About Stallone, it wrote that he was proof that money can’t buy everything. It can’t buy class.
I don’t know Mr. Hansen. That may apply here.
https://www.si.com/soccer/2020/08/31/dell-loy-hansen-mls-racism-progressive-league-real-salt-lake
Yorkshireman,Obsessed collector of round, metallic pieces of history.Hunting for Latin American colonial portraits plus cool US & British coins.
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I saw something on that a few days ago on ESPN (I'm pretty sure) and figured it wouldn't end well between him and the teams. He's probably just being forced to take a profit (financially).
Also, "downfall" might be a bit extreme of a word for a billionaire who's about to make more money.
I guess free speech is no longer allowed.
Can we get back to coins??
Not a fan of bringing people's private lives into the forum.
New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
This is not exactly “private”. It is a Sports Illustrated headline.
Now he can buy more coins.
Sounds like a win to me.
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He just said he felt disrespected when his players went on strike.
It was called a racist comment in some articles.
That is not a racist comment in my view. It is about labor relations.
Dell Loy left a very positive impression on me on the occasions I've spoken with him. He has not just had a positive impact on our hobby with his quest, his charitable work is extensive with major efforts for disadvantaged children and many other positive efforts. But I think we should focus our forum on the hobby.
I’ve never watched soccer, so I don’t care. As a die hard baseball and pro football fan, my patience is on thin ice. Regardless of who is right or wrong, I’m not going to be lectured by pro athletes about anything. SI mentions “paying customers”. Do they not realize half of pro sport’s fan bases are blue collar middle class folks?
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Last thread on this topic got deleted. FYI.
Please close this thread.
Guess you didn't see the other thread about this go POOF!> @Yorkshireman said:
O.k., I admit it. I was wrong. I guess I like the guy afterall.
That comment itself was not racist IMO either. Tone deaf perhaps. It was other previous comments he made to staff and etc that forced the sell.
Anyways this thread should be closed. Nothing good can come of this at all
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Sports Illustrated has about as much objectivity as the New York Times or watching ESPN.
There was plenty more to Hansen’s statement, but let’s focus on the adjectives describing his ideal successor: “new” and “refreshed.” He’s been wrong about a ton, but he’s on to something there. New and refreshed, instead of outdated and dusty. New and refreshed, rather than archaic and regressive
it is peculiar to me that whenever a theft at a Coin Show/Coin Shop/Residence is reported here that almost universally the cry is for the most drastic of punishment for the perpetrator(s). when something such as this is reported, the initial reaction is to hush-up about it. if this were to take place on the Bourse, what would be the reaction?? what comes to my mind is Moral Equivalence.
I personally can’t imagine using that word and wouldn’t hang with anyone who does.
I would wish this had been posted at that long running "Hansen" thread, maybe that could be deleted.
That last comment is a Neat idea!
Thank you, Keets, for expressing something objective.
This.
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What does that mean?
I personally can’t imagine using that word and wouldn’t hang with anyone who does?
Bruce, that's my reasoning as well and why I wonder that, armed with this knowledge, if he is the Goodwill Ambassador that he's been and that our Hobby needs?
AND THAT IS A VERY GOOD PLACE FOR IT. This thread is scrapping the bottom.
I have lost "friends and acquaintances" over them using that word. I had to ask someone to leave my house over the use of it not that long ago. It was shocking to hear.
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Another Deep thought there, Keets
Thank you.
Bruce,
You have written multiple times that just because someone has a lot of money, it doesn’t mean they can necessarily build a great collection.
DLH has built what I consider a great collection but he has typically bought many great collections that were already built.
Back to my original point, he will have lots more money to buy sets of coins now he is out of the sports business.
(Not that he needed it.)
https://sports.yahoo.com/mls-condemns-rsl-owner-dell-loy-hansen-after-allegations-of-persistent-racism-donald-sterling-part-2-022340219.html
Twitter is all lit up with outrage over him.
https://www.espn.com/soccer/real-salt-lake/story/4168571/real-salt-lake-owner-dell-loy-hansen-takes-leave-amid-probe-into-racist-remarks
I wonder if DLRC will maintain their relationship with him. I would not want to have any close relationship with someone like this, let alone a business relationship. I wonder if people will boycott DLRC. Maybe John Brush will chime in? @JBatDavidLawrence
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What was the horrible thing he said? I can't find it.
@Currin and @JBatDavidLawrence seem to have strong alliances with him. I wonder if that will change.
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If we all took a stand like that, the world might change for the better.
Eeh Gads! It's a cabal!
Yes, it might. But> @Yorkshireman said:
DLH is an influential public figure, and what he says and does can have a big impact. As an owner of a sports team, he is accountable to the feelings and opinions of his employees and fans. I completely understand why folks are reacting the way they are.
It won't invalidate him as a collector. There are more dubious characters in numismatic history. I hope he takes this whole thing as a learning opportunity so that he can continue to grow as a person.
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"Numismatic categorizations, if left unconstrained, will increase spontaneously over time." -me
Well put.
Is Mr. Hansen a numismatist as is our own Tradedollarnut or someone with a lot of money who can pretty much buy whatever he wants? I really would like to know.
From ESPN:
“The story quoted former employees and others who said Hansen had made a number of racially insensitive comments and used a racial slur, both leagues said they would conduct investigations.“
If true this is VERY VERY bad.
We don't have to like or respect each other's implicit biases to benefit and learn from each other when it comes to coins.
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Hansen apologized Monday in a statement he released to announce plans to sell the teams.
"I recognize that at times I have spoken too quickly, without pausing to consider the feelings or good intentions of others," Hansen said. "This is not acceptable and I assume full responsibility for allowing my words to travel unfiltered as to their significance and impact.
"I believe that communities are strengthened by diversity. I am truly sorry for offending and being insensitive to the plight of others. I seek to do better and commit to supporting and improving diversity and inclusion in my own community going forward.
"After deep consideration and soul-searching, my wife Julie and I agree that the best way forward for the Real Salt Lake family is to assume new ownership and a refreshed vision."
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I give DLH credit for owning up to his behavior and issuing an apology.
Totally agree
anyone gonna post a coin today?
He fell on the sword. It's a step in the right direction.
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Whatever his issues are - personal, Private, or monetary...He still has to go around me to have all # 1 sets !
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