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1913 Type 1 Buffalo(sellers pic). 7-16 Update...now in hand!

HallcoHallco Posts: 3,684 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited July 17, 2020 7:00PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Probably nothing special, but I thought it was a pretty good strike and I like some of the clashing. These are the pictures from the sellers post(not on this forum). I sold an example that I really liked many years ago and have regretted it for a long time. If it's a dud in hand, I'm not out much money and can still wait for the right one to come along! :) Opinions welcome. I will update when it arrives...probably sometime early next week.


7-16 update. The coin arrived. I did not invest much to acquire. I will take it to the next show that I attend for more opinions. Thanks to everyone who replied! Here are a couple of quick less than great pics out of the flip:

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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,871 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks pretty clean and well struck. I like the color, but hard to be sure from a photo.

  • 1Bufffan1Bufffan Posts: 675 ✭✭✭✭

    Nicely struck!, sometimes the coin looks "Yellow" if it is taken under a florescent light that is why you should use halogen or Bright white Led's.

  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    just curious. what it is under? glass. almost like it is sandwiched.

    it almost looks like some kind of weird slab but there aren't the tell-tell signs around the possible gasket to determine which tpg it may be.

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  • HallcoHallco Posts: 3,684 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:
    just curious. what it is under? glass. almost like it is sandwiched.

    it almost looks like some kind of weird slab but there aren't the tell-tell signs around the possible gasket to determine which tpg it may be.

    I'm not sure. I assumed that it was raw. The post simply said "BU 1913 Buffalo Type 1" but it might be in some sort of odd contraption! Lol. :D

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice coin!
    I like the toning.

  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,735 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A nice coin and definitely a business strike as most of the coins are.

    Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,317 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hallco can't wait to see your pics, once you can free it from that scratched plastic. I think it's gonna be good. Peace Roy

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Certainly appears to be a nicely struck Buff... The details are very good... I look forward to your pictures. Cheers, RickO

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I concur that it looks well struck. Appears to be in a flip or under a magnifier. Will definitely look very different in hand - but not in a bad way! Meaning the color is off in the pic - i expect it to be nicer in hand. Keep us posted!!

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,845 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice color and strike. I see nothing wrong with the pic right now

  • HallcoHallco Posts: 3,684 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 14, 2020 4:28PM

    For those still interested...it's been over 3 weeks and still has not arrived. I have been in contact with the seller and we both think the mail is just slow at the moment based on where it was shipped, the fact that there was a holiday and it's final destination. Thanks for the replies! I will update again when I have in hand!

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well struck except for the uppermost feather, which is almost totally lacking detail. Full strikes, such as this one can be found without too much trouble.

  • clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Have you received this yet?
    The sellers photos appear to be trying to hide a big scratch or strike thru on the hip under the glare. Pretty well struck otherwise.

    MS66 taste on an MS63 budget.
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,142 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 15, 2020 8:48AM

    A great looking type 1 from the pics. Please do take some of your pics and share.
    Great looking strike for sure, with the exception of the top of the reverse shown in the weakness of the lettering. I’d say above average.
    Nice addition 👍

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  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,879 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you got it for the right price you can't really go wrong. 1913 Type 1's are typically well-struck, particularly D mint ones. I would challenge you to find one with a full STATES, notice the one that @koynekwest posted even has some weakness in the ST.

    Collector, occasional seller

  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ChrisH821 said:
    If you got it for the right price you can't really go wrong. 1913 Type 1's are typically well-struck, particularly D mint ones. I would challenge you to find one with a full STATES, notice the one that @koynekwest posted even has some weakness in the ST.


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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 15,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Based on the images, apparently, I'm not nearly as fond of the coin as most others are. While it could be the lighting, the obverse looks as if it might have been cleaned and the reverse looks lackluster. All in all, my guess is that the coin is AU, possibly with problems.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with the comments about the '13-D Var 1. There's some really fantastically struck coins from this date and Mint.

  • HallcoHallco Posts: 3,684 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Updated in original post.

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,871 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice. Nice grab.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 15,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The reverse, in particular, looks cleaned to me.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,576 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @koynekwest said:
    I agree with the comments about the '13-D Var 1. There's some really fantastically struck coins from this date and Mint.

    Absolutely! In fact, 13-D TY1 could even be a better choice for a Type Set.

    Pete

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  • HallcoHallco Posts: 3,684 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 16, 2020 7:50AM

    @MFeld said:
    The reverse, in particular, looks cleaned to me.

    After receiving in hand and comparing the reverse photos, I think the area along the belly, from the leg to hip may have been lighty cleaned at some point Mark. Is that where you are seeing it? I don't have my loupe with me at the moment but plan on inspecting it later this evening. The only other possibility I can consider is the break in the toning? Thank you for pointing this out to me.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 15,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hallco said:

    @MFeld said:
    The reverse, in particular, looks cleaned to me.

    After receiving in hand and comparing the reverse photos, I think the area along the belly, from the leg to hip may have been lighty cleaned at some point Mark. Is that where you are seeing it? I don't have my loupe with me at the moment but plan on inspecting it later this evening. The only other possibility I can consider is the break in the toning? Thank you for pointing this out to me.

    Based on the second set of photos, all of the reverse looks off to me, The two sets of pictures look very different, but in each case, I'm leery.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • HallcoHallco Posts: 3,684 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Based on the issues on the reverse I have decided to return the coin. Thanks again for the replies. It means a lot that many of you took the time to comment. :)

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