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Letters from known numismatic forger Thomas Wyatt

1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I found this very interesting, especially concerning New England Silvers.
For those that know this, disregard.................for those that don't, enjoy.

https://youtu.be/n4F3H1nto-U

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  • ksammutksammut Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭

    Very interesting! Thanks for sharing.

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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice!

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,279 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very interesting false letters of provenance. Thanks for that. Peace Roy

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,340 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting and thanks for sharing. I learned something

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,822 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice!

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  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Really interesting!

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  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,760 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is my example I obtained a few years back.
    (1850s) Pine Tree Sixpence. Wyatt Copy in Silver. PCGS MS-63.
    Noe-L, Kenney-4, W-14072.
    Ford had only one of these, graded EF and it realized $920 a decade ago.
    Listed on the Noe plates as a counterfeit

    Pedigree: From the Henry P. Kendall Foundation Collection.
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    An Eric P. Newman NGC MS63 example sold in 2018 for $2,880.
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  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,176 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting history. TY for the post.

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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,550 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very interesting, thanks.

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  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A nice example @coinsarefun

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  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,760 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1630Boston said:
    A nice example @coinsarefun

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    Thanks. And thank you very much for this thread.

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  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinsarefun
    Sometimes I stumble upon things and think others might like to see them..............sometimes they do and sometimes they do not.

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  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just hope my avatar is genuine :)

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1630Boston ....Thanks for the interesting video...Some nice numismatic history there. Cheers, RickO

  • ShadyDaveShadyDave Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinsarefun said:
    This is my example I obtained a few years back.
    (1850s) Pine Tree Sixpence. Wyatt Copy in Silver. PCGS MS-63.
    Noe-L, Kenney-4, W-14072.
    Ford had only one of these, graded EF and it realized $920 a decade ago.
    Listed on the Noe plates as a counterfeit

    Pedigree: From the Henry P. Kendall Foundation Collection.
    .
    .

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    .
    .
    An Eric P. Newman NGC MS63 example sold in 2018 for $2,880.
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    I find it interesting that TPG's decided to actually slab these counterfeits.

  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,760 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 23, 2020 7:52AM

    @1630Boston said:
    @coinsarefun
    Sometimes I stumble upon things and think others might like to see them..............sometimes they do and sometimes they do not.

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    I like it. Those that don’t can find many other threads to read.
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    btw, forgot to add, anyone can easily see it’s a copy, fake.
    By looking at the 5 in date, it is drastically different

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,621 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 23, 2020 8:30AM

    Must be some good stuff...WEBSITE BLOCKED at work;

    ...but, it's my lunch time.

    It will have to keep until I get to the house.

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  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,940 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've had this one as long as I can remember. It's a struck example with a slight wire edge around about a third of the coin. I suspect it's one of those from the Tatham Stamp and Coin Company that they sold in the 40's.
    Anyone have an idea ?

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  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thebeav said:
    I've had this one as long as I can remember. It's a struck example with a slight wire edge around about a third of the coin. I suspect it's one of those from the Tatham Stamp and Coin Company that they sold in the 40's.
    Anyone have an idea ?

    Kind of looks like this one, not exactly though

    Stacks Bowers 2014 Baltimore
    6430 "1652" Pine Tree Shilling. Large Planchet. Tatham Coin Company Copy. White Metal. AU-50.
    Sold $70
    LOT DESCRIPTION
    "1652" Pine Tree Shilling. Large Planchet. Tatham Coin Company Copy. White Metal. AU-50.
    86.5 grains. Light steel-gray with the tell-tale hairlines of a long-ago cleaning. Still, a neat item from decades ago issued by a Massachusetts coin dealer.
    Provenance: Paper envelope with identification notation included.


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  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,940 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, I think that's it.
    Mine is also 86 grains, white metal.
    Thanks........

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