Since everyone likes to discuss toning..............................
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Do you consider "White" to be a color??
Since everyone likes to discuss toning..............................
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this should be fun.
Is it a color in the rainbow?
You do realize that this is an anthropological question, right?
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Yes, white is a color. If you see a coin that is toned white let me know.
I believe the scientific definition of white is "the absence of color" and black is "all colors together".
Drunner
Many in our hobby describe color-free coins as “white”. However, while “white” is often used to describe a color, color-free coins aren’t white.
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As are many relevant topics (aging collectors, hoarding, collecting shiny objects, gold as a measure of value, …). The real question: Where do obsessive-compulsive collectors rank on the evolutionary tree?
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I believe white is a color and black is the absence of color if memory serves me.
and memory has served you wrong.
strictly speaking, White is not a color. in fact, it is the absence of color as DRUNNER posted. interestingly, Silver isn't a color, either, but it is used to describe the Grey reflectivity of the metal itself. Grey is a color, yet it never or rarely gets used in the Hobby. that's peculiar since hobbyists seem to prefer to use a wrong choice while discarding the right choice, so we call untoned Silver, which is Grey, as being White.
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What a rainbow or a prism does is break down light into "pure" single wavelengths, and the colors of the rainbow include all the different possible wavelengths of visible light. The prism breaks the light into all the colors that make up white - so you do not see white because white is a combination of colors.
Natural white or artificial white?
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You could also say no combination of colors can make something white, but a combination of all colors will make black.
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A combination of all color paint will make black paint.
A combination of all color light will make white light.
Toning will make a black coin. Dip will make a white coin.
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In terms of light (electromagnetic radiation), black is the absence of any color, and white is the combination of all colors. (Don't try this with paint.) Prisms (and raindrops, etc.) refract white light into its various spectral components.
As far as coins go, there is dipped "white" and there is original skin "white". I rarely find the former attractive. The latter can manifest as a satiny layer over a silver coin, which can often yield an appealing appearance, IMO.
One thing I learned on this forum is when something was posted just an hour ago and there are already 18 comments with debate, it's probably best to steer clear of the post!
I disagree. Disagreement and debate can be far more interesting and a much better learning experience than general/widespread agreement.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Perhaps in life in general, but this is the CU Coin Forum after all.
You have it reversed. White is a color and black is the absence of color. Using a prism you can separate white light into different wavelengths/color components.
There are two ways to combine colors, additive and subtractive.
Light uses additive colors, so the more colors you add the closer you will get to white.
Paint uses subtractive colors, so the more colors you add the closer you will get to black.
Technically, it is but it is a bland one.
When I use the term 'color', I usually mean something more deep on the scale.
Think RAINBOW.
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I can go to the store and pick up 3 cans of spray paint, white, black, argent (silver) so I consider them colors.
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I see we also have some academics or guys with academic backgrounds on here. There was once a physicist who wrote his doctoral dissertation on the color of sea water (this is where wavelengths of light comes in) and due to the subjective nature of color determination, or perception, it gradually led him to becoming an anthropologist. Today, he is known as the Father of American Anthropology and that is why almost all colleges and universities in the United States have an anthropology department or at least offer courses in it. The man was Franz Boas.
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Sometimes ... it all depends on the person's view ... Bass belly white is a color ... white toilet paper is a shade ... Silver is a color ... Gold is a color.
Is vanilla a flavor?
yes, one of the best.
Hopefully I can help expand on your question with fact.
(All preses are described as per units, and its only ink well. A six color press has 6 units)
A. Opaque White
B. Transparent White
The ink is placed back into any empty can. When the can is full, dump the contents and mix.
That can just saved you 40.00. Yes always turns to black. 99.8 of the time.
That ink is used for a lower quality run, such as raffel tickets or ad books and other jobs quoted as per.
If your asking a pressman, Gotta have it.
Yes it is.
Just ask Upper Deck Tradding Cards.
Forgot to say something, If I have to put white in a unit...its a color.
I swore I wasn't gonna do this but...Look
White Tone?
Reading the OP and all replies to this thread has been a "privilege".
Umm... no, bad picture and corrosion.
I always thought that white is a reflection of all colors. And black is when no light is reflected.
Regardless, both white and black light matter.
Lance.
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What appears when you pass white light through a prism? The colors are separated into their discreet wavelengths...so, white would be the combination of colors.
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If anyone can show a photo of a silver coin on a regular sheet of paper that shows that they’re the same color please share it. Most coins show plenty of contrast on a white background. Virtually every TrueView is presented this way.
Only a color on a coin which has been enameled.
It's his gig, morgandollar. He posts corroded coins to this message board for amusement. Don't ask me why.
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Excellent color on that coin. A real blast white.
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How many stones won't make it across?
@oih82w8 and/or Dark side of the Moon has the answer with so many more questions.
I like toned and white as long as the grade is right who gives a hoot.
According to Wikipedia...."White is the lightest color and is achromatic (having no hue). It is the color of fresh snow, chalk and milk, and is the opposite of black. White objects fully reflect and scatter all the visible wavelengths of light. White on television and computer screens is created by a mixture of red, blue and green light."
Cheers, RickO
and I have been awaiting our resident White-ologist to opine, thank you RickO!!! I now say we ignore the Poll numbers and lock this thread at the top of page one!!!
Used this to measure the color of an opaque glass ceramic material years ago
depends on whether you are talking absorbance or reflection
White is the color resulting in the absence of pigment on a surface (pigments are subtractive) otherwise capable of reflecting every light wavelength (light is additive). Gray is the same as white, but with every wavelength attenuated equally. Black is the appearance of no visible light, which means there are no light waves to measure, thus making it an indeterminate color.
Unless you're @ricko , in which case white is the only color, with "tarnish" being the Anticolor.
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@messydesk What happens if you are colorblind? You probably wouldn't like toners too much.
I imagine you'd like them less, but it's all based on individual perception of what the color is and how the colorblindness manifests itself. I was looking at a colorblindness simulator and it does make vivid toning less attractive, but my baseline is not being colorblind.
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Color blindness tests were mandatory.
Always passed with flying...COLORS.
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