Is this one cleaned?
Coinman999
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Inherited this coin, not an expert - wondering if it is clean / worthy of sending in for grading.
Thanks for your help!
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Coinman999
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Obverse looks like it could have been cleaned. Need better photo.
And for the love of god, do something about those staples before something gets scratched.
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What is the "T" beside the base upper left corner under the star? At least looks like a "T". Could this be counterfeit or just a photographic anomaly?
Jim
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Looks either environmentally damaged or counterfeit to me.
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Shield rivets look too good. Don’t like the T. I would not be comfortable buying that coin.
A new "Omega"?
Wow, good eye jesbroken. This quarter was inherited by my dad in the mid-1970s and untouched since along with other coins I think are real. Cannot say I can explain the T!
Heck of a strike.
I can't make heads or tails (ahem) from the pix. If you're unable to get good advice from someone you trust who has seen it first hand it might be worth submitting to PCGS.
Lance.
If you do send it in for grading, please let us know what the results are. This could be a real educational opportunity for all of us.
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Sorry, no help here.
Check this out! PCGS photograde, obverse of the AU58. I see a "T" in the exact same spot! Shield rivets strong there too.
@Coinman999.... I have photograde up right now, with the AU58 magnified on my screen, and I do not see a T there... Cheers, RickO
Thanks RickO.
Please look closer. It is not raised like the one in my example, and therefore a bit more subtle, but I see a distinct T, lighter than the surrounding field, in exactly the same spot on their 1917 AU58 example. Maybe just my eyes playing tricks on me ...
https://www.pcgs.com/photograde#/SLQT1/Grades
After looking at hundreds of 1917 SLQs in most grades, I have never noticed such a T or any other letter in this or any abnormal position. I do not see the T you are seeing in the Photograde AU58
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
Thanks jesbroken, guess it's a fake! Will show this to my local coin dealer - he has been a collector / dealer for at least a few decades. Will let you all know if he has anything interesting to say about it. Appreciate all of the feedback, especially from you jesbroken. Pretty sure I would not have noticed the "T" on my own.
I would not take it as a given that the coin is counterfeit.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
As I stated, possibly a photographic anomaly. I owned an 1872 LSHD once that had an anomaly that appeared as the rear portion of an arrow until enlarged to find scratches. I see nothing that would attest to the coin being counterfeit other than the odd anomaly. I would have the coin graded by our hosts and truly know the answer, but that is just an opinion.
Jim
Here is the Half Dime I mentioned:
and the enlargement:
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
I see the faint T you’re referring to in the AU58 as well.
It neither screams cleaned nor counterfeit to me. It does look AU, though. Full strike is typical for 1917 Type 1.
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