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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,752 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @JBK said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @JBK said:

    Can you show a reverse photo?

    Is that coin for sale, PM if so.

    Thx but NFS. Not until my heirs take ownership some day.

    Here is the reverse, but it tends to confuse people as the date on the obverse is 2016 but the understrike on the reverse is 2015. I guess it was a slow motion error that took a long time to create. :smiley:

    Wow, two different dates, just amazing please, give your heirs my number.

    Send that to PCGS.

    Right now I will offer you $1500.

    That can't be a flip over double strike.

    Technically that's probably correct.

    It didn't flip over, it went through the minting process twice.

    It's one of those things that makes me say: shenanigans!

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @JBK said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @JBK said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @JBK said:

    Can you show a reverse photo?

    Is that coin for sale, PM if so.

    Thx but NFS. Not until my heirs take ownership some day.

    Here is the reverse, but it tends to confuse people as the date on the obverse is 2016 but the understrike on the reverse is 2015. I guess it was a slow motion error that took a long time to create. :smiley:

    Wow, two different dates, just amazing please, give your heirs my number.

    Send that to PCGS.

    Right now I will offer you $1500.

    That can't be a flip over double strike.

    Technically that's probably correct.

    It didn't flip over, it went through the minting process twice.

    It's one of those things that makes me say: shenanigans!

    absolutely not, uber-cool real mint error and not a midnight coin as it is super explainable

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,752 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @JBK said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @JBK said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @JBK said:

    Can you show a reverse photo?

    Is that coin for sale, PM if so.

    Thx but NFS. Not until my heirs take ownership some day.

    Here is the reverse, but it tends to confuse people as the date on the obverse is 2016 but the understrike on the reverse is 2015. I guess it was a slow motion error that took a long time to create. :smiley:

    Wow, two different dates, just amazing please, give your heirs my number.

    Send that to PCGS.

    Right now I will offer you $1500.

    That can't be a flip over double strike.

    Technically that's probably correct.

    It didn't flip over, it went through the minting process twice.

    It's one of those things that makes me say: shenanigans!

    absolutely not, uber-cool real mint error and not a midnight coin as it is super explainable

    The only possible explanation that I can think of is that there was a 2015 nickel in with the blank planchets. Could it happen by accident? Sure, I guess, although why minted coins ended up in with blanks I'm not sure.

    It could also be shenanigans.

  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Honestly it's hard to put a number on a FODS as some times it's worth whatever someone is willing to pay if it's dramatic.

    For example pricing it's coolness factor...

    Years ago I bough a 1972 FODS the Lincoln Memorial being double struck looked like a + sign.

    I paid $100 and sold it on eBay for $220-ish in a .99c auction.

    It resold a few times via BIN once for $1,200.00 and another time for $2,500.00.

    I didn't see it valued at either... Yet 2 collectors did.

    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Another thing to take into consideration is that mint errors excite collectors differently.

    Someone might see a specific error as ho-hum whereas to another collectors it's mind blowing.

    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 8, 2020 11:28AM

    @JBK said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @JBK said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @JBK said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @JBK said:

    Can you show a reverse photo?

    Is that coin for sale, PM if so.

    Thx but NFS. Not until my heirs take ownership some day.

    Here is the reverse, but it tends to confuse people as the date on the obverse is 2016 but the understrike on the reverse is 2015. I guess it was a slow motion error that took a long time to create. :smiley:

    Wow, two different dates, just amazing please, give your heirs my number.

    Send that to PCGS.

    Right now I will offer you $1500.

    That can't be a flip over double strike.

    Technically that's probably correct.

    It didn't flip over, it went through the minting process twice.

    It's one of those things that makes me say: shenanigans!

    absolutely not, uber-cool real mint error and not a midnight coin as it is super explainable

    The only possible explanation that I can think of is that there was a 2015 nickel in with the blank planchets. Could it happen by accident? Sure, I guess, although why minted coins ended up in with blanks I'm not sure.

    It could also be shenanigans.

    No shenanigans. Grease.

    It was smothered in congealed black grease. No doubt that caused it to stick somewhere, and it dislodged weeks or months later after the new year (and new dies) had arrived.

    The most likely scenario is that it was stuck on a bin that had held struck 2015 nickels, and then blanks in 2016.

    Did NGC remove the grease or did you?

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,752 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @JBK said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @JBK said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @JBK said:

    Can you show a reverse photo?

    Is that coin for sale, PM if so.

    Thx but NFS. Not until my heirs take ownership some day.

    Here is the reverse, but it tends to confuse people as the date on the obverse is 2016 but the understrike on the reverse is 2015. I guess it was a slow motion error that took a long time to create. :smiley:

    Wow, two different dates, just amazing please, give your heirs my number.

    Send that to PCGS.

    Right now I will offer you $1500.

    That can't be a flip over double strike.

    Technically that's probably correct.

    It didn't flip over, it went through the minting process twice.

    It's one of those things that makes me say: shenanigans!

    absolutely not, uber-cool real mint error and not a midnight coin as it is super explainable

    The only possible explanation that I can think of is that there was a 2015 nickel in with the blank planchets. Could it happen by accident? Sure, I guess, although why minted coins ended up in with blanks I'm not sure.

    It could also be shenanigans.

    No shenanigans. Grease.

    It was smothered in congealed black grease. No doubt that caused it to stick somewhere, and it dislodged weeks or months later after the new year (and new dies) had arrived.

    The most likely scenario is that it was stuck on a bin that had held struck 2015 nickels, and then blanks in 2016.

    As I said, it could happen that way.

    And it could be shenanigans. LOL. I don't trust a lot of this stuff, especially since error prices went up. I mean, jeepers, it seems like the Minting Room has boxes of nails and screws all over the place.

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @JBK said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @JBK said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @JBK said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @JBK said:

    Can you show a reverse photo?

    Is that coin for sale, PM if so.

    Thx but NFS. Not until my heirs take ownership some day.

    Here is the reverse, but it tends to confuse people as the date on the obverse is 2016 but the understrike on the reverse is 2015. I guess it was a slow motion error that took a long time to create. :smiley:

    Wow, two different dates, just amazing please, give your heirs my number.

    Send that to PCGS.

    Right now I will offer you $1500.

    That can't be a flip over double strike.

    Technically that's probably correct.

    It didn't flip over, it went through the minting process twice.

    It's one of those things that makes me say: shenanigans!

    absolutely not, uber-cool real mint error and not a midnight coin as it is super explainable

    The only possible explanation that I can think of is that there was a 2015 nickel in with the blank planchets. Could it happen by accident? Sure, I guess, although why minted coins ended up in with blanks I'm not sure.

    It could also be shenanigans.

    No shenanigans. Grease.

    It was smothered in congealed black grease. No doubt that caused it to stick somewhere, and it dislodged weeks or months later after the new year (and new dies) had arrived.

    The most likely scenario is that it was stuck on a bin that had held struck 2015 nickels, and then blanks in 2016.

    As I said, it could happen that way.

    And it could be shenanigans. LOL. , especially since error prices went up. I mean, jeepers, it seems like the Minting Room has boxes of nails and screws all over the place.

    Just because " I don't trust a lot of this stuff" does not make it so.

    Prices are up because of rarity and the mint actions from 2002 have compounded the rarity of all errors.

    Plus errors are uber cool.

    Owning unique coinage is awesome.

    Your comment about boxes of nails and screws shows your lack of knowledge and is just a dig at the error coin market.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,451 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @JBK said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @JBK said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @JBK said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @JBK said:

    Can you show a reverse photo?

    Is that coin for sale, PM if so.

    Thx but NFS. Not until my heirs take ownership some day.

    Here is the reverse, but it tends to confuse people as the date on the obverse is 2016 but the understrike on the reverse is 2015. I guess it was a slow motion error that took a long time to create. :smiley:

    Wow, two different dates, just amazing please, give your heirs my number.

    Send that to PCGS.

    Right now I will offer you $1500.

    That can't be a flip over double strike.

    Technically that's probably correct.

    It didn't flip over, it went through the minting process twice.

    It's one of those things that makes me say: shenanigans!

    absolutely not, uber-cool real mint error and not a midnight coin as it is super explainable

    The only possible explanation that I can think of is that there was a 2015 nickel in with the blank planchets. Could it happen by accident? Sure, I guess, although why minted coins ended up in with blanks I'm not sure.

    It could also be shenanigans.

    No shenanigans. Grease.

    It was smothered in congealed black grease. No doubt that caused it to stick somewhere, and it dislodged weeks or months later after the new year (and new dies) had arrived.

    The most likely scenario is that it was stuck on a bin that had held struck 2015 nickels, and then blanks in 2016.

    Did NGC remove the grease or did you?

    I got some with a light wipe from a paper towel so I could read the date (no idea it was an error at the time), and they did the rest.

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 8, 2020 1:05PM

    @JBK said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @JBK said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @JBK said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @JBK said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @JBK said:

    Can you show a reverse photo?

    Is that coin for sale, PM if so.

    Thx but NFS. Not until my heirs take ownership some day.

    Here is the reverse, but it tends to confuse people as the date on the obverse is 2016 but the understrike on the reverse is 2015. I guess it was a slow motion error that took a long time to create. :smiley:

    Wow, two different dates, just amazing please, give your heirs my number.

    Send that to PCGS.

    Right now I will offer you $1500.

    That can't be a flip over double strike.

    Technically that's probably correct.

    It didn't flip over, it went through the minting process twice.

    It's one of those things that makes me say: shenanigans!

    absolutely not, uber-cool real mint error and not a midnight coin as it is super explainable

    The only possible explanation that I can think of is that there was a 2015 nickel in with the blank planchets. Could it happen by accident? Sure, I guess, although why minted coins ended up in with blanks I'm not sure.

    It could also be shenanigans.

    No shenanigans. Grease.

    It was smothered in congealed black grease. No doubt that caused it to stick somewhere, and it dislodged weeks or months later after the new year (and new dies) had arrived.

    The most likely scenario is that it was stuck on a bin that had held struck 2015 nickels, and then blanks in 2016.

    Did NGC remove the grease or did you?

    I got some with a light wipe from a paper towel so I could read the date (no idea it was an error at the time), and they did the rest.

    Thank you.

    Sometimes, raw errors come with grease and I have used mild soap and hot water to remove the grease and sometimes (rarely) use a toothpick. I rinse in water and then 91% alcohol. Pat dry. Never wipe a coin with a cloth. This is not cleaning but preservation.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,752 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @JBK said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @JBK said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @JBK said:

    Your comment about boxes of nails and screws shows your lack of knowledge and is just a dig at the error coin market.

    Lighten up, Francis. It's a satirical statement about some of the possible late night shenanigans.

    You can be a believer or a skeptic. The fact is it is impossible for me to prove that they are shenanigans. It is equally impossible for you to prove that they are not shenanigans.

    I remain skeptical about some of these errors (1970-S PROOF quarter struck on a 1941 silver Canada planchet? 1970-S quarter struck on a Barber quarter? 1958 double die cents all in one man's hands?). Feel free to believe in them all. That doesn't make you smarter or better informed. It makes you a believer.

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