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Copper War Jefferson?

joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 18,975 ✭✭✭✭✭

Hi guy's. This Jeffy, 1943P, was one I posted in one of my earlier threads. This time I'm wondering if my War Nickle can actually be the rare Copper? They say both weigh the same (5.0 Gms.) so it's too difficult to detect this way. Other options are to do the scientific method. They call it the "drop test". by trying this, you can damage the coin. Besides, you really have to have a good ear to detect. In which, I'm not too far from being deaf as we speak. Old age! Lol. They're is one more option. To use that High Tech. tool that dealers sometime have at their stores. Very expensive bullion tool.
So, which brings me to my next option. To at least determine knowing I have a shot at the rare error. I posted pictures of the coins edge. To me, this seems odd! Notice the two layers of an appearance of Copper. I am aware of the two different shades but wondering what the heck these layers really can be? Thanks guy's for any suggestions. :)






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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 13,314 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Could be strick on a foreign planchet.

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    joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 18,975 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oih82w8 said:
    Could be strick on a foreign planchet.

    Wow! That'll be cool alright! Strange appearance, huh?

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    1Bufffan1Bufffan Posts: 675 ✭✭✭✭

    Nickel planchets are 75% copper and 25% nickel could be a alloy mix problem when they rolled out the stock it was not properly mixed in the strip stock!

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    1Bufffan1Bufffan Posts: 675 ✭✭✭✭

    Oh I'm sorry yours is a war nickel they changed the formula for those!

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    JBKJBK Posts: 17,935 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 7, 2020 10:54AM

    War nickels take on many colors and shades due to the specific alloy and sometimes uneven mix of metals.

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    joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 18,975 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wonder why the exposure though? In all of my years in coin collecting, never seen the edge of Jeffersons like this. :*

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,721 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Certainly is different than any war nickel I have, or have seen....Get it checked out at a dealer or jeweler who has a Sigma Metalytics analyzer....Cheers, RickO

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    privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,906 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Silver war nickels were still 56% copper, so could this be one that the metal wasn't mixed to well leaving the streak of copper?

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    JesseKraftJesseKraft Posts: 417 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 8, 2020 6:09AM

    Remember that even "warnix" have 56% copper in them, so an improper mixture of the correct composition could result in an appearance of this metal.


    I'd bank on post-mint damage, however. There is a lot of nastiness happening around the reverse rim.

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    BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,787 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Like the comments above. It seems that it could be an improper metal mix.

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    JBKJBK Posts: 17,935 ✭✭✭✭✭

    FWIW, I find normal nickels that have a coppery appearance in full or in part. It is environmental damage in those cases.

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    ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Normal coin, no extra value.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 43,349 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Normal coin. I've seen that dozens of times.

    Why do you find the yellow discoloration more unusual than the green discoloration right next to it?

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,845 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nothing special.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 43,349 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just grabbed a random bunch of nickels out of my scrap. Note the tendency to develop rings of discoloration around the rim. They come in all colors. Reds and yellows and greens.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 43,349 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 8, 2020 11:09AM

    @joeykoins said:
    I wonder why the exposure though? In all of my years in coin collecting, never seen the edge of Jeffersons like this. :*

    It's common on war nickels. It's less common on copper nickel jeffersons. As someone else mentioned, probably alloy mixing issues.

    If it were indicative of a copper- nickel composition, you'd see it all the time on non-war jeffersons.

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    joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 18,975 ✭✭✭✭✭

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