28 D Merc GTG grades revealed
Sandman70gt
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Lets try something a little different. This should prove to be interesting as comments come in.
Very nice comments thus far.
Before regrade:
After regrade:
Trueview lightened up just a bit to try and simulate in hand look:
So many of you thought it was 66fb, which is exactly what I thought.
It came back the same, but why?
Super clean fields, the luster is there for 66. Better struck than most 28d's. The toning has very nice eye appeal.
Two things I feel may have affected grading higher.
1. The obverse rim ding at 1:00.
2. On this submission I also sent in a very nice 66fb that upgraded to 67fb and a very nice 66+fb that also upgraded to 67fb.
The 28d was coin #3 on submission.
I just was hoping for some insight on this one. Glad so many of you thought the same as me on this one.
The upside on this coin from 65 to 66fb is pretty good.
Thoughts and comments......
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Looks like an MS65FB to me so that will be my guess.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
The sales pictures made it looked dipped out. The newer pictures make it look awesome. It looks like it could make 66FB.
Edit - somehow missed the rim ding. 66FB may be too optimistic.
I like it. FSB according to what I see. Nice strike, too, with clean fields.
I don't like to grade from pictures, but I will say 65FSB or higher.
Pete
66, probably FB. Edit to add that I like it a lot.
Wow, nice snag considering the seller's photos. I'd grade it 66FB from the TrueView and a plus (for eye appeal) wouldn't really surprise me.
I believe at least 65fb, nice pickup. I truly like the coin, color and strike.
Jim
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My guess would be 66+ FB shot 67FB. Although any picture can hide stuff, the obverse is virtually flawless. Both fields and devices have no perceptible flaws except for a small rim ding at 1 o'clock. The only distraction at all is some chatter on the fasces just below the middle bands on the reverse and the aforementioned rim ding at 1 o'clock on the obverse. Even the luster shows on the TV, which is unusual. Nice solid strike. There's really nothing not to like about this coin. Nice pick up!
Looks nice enough to reach MS66 FB.
66
Good comments so far.
The rim ding was not visible in the first pictures or in hand because it was in a prongless holder.
For those of you that don't collect mercs, the 28d usually suffers from weakly peripherals, and this one does have a very good strike.
I'll let this thread run a bit before I reveal the before and after grades
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I thought your original post said "before and after" regrade????
Before . . from the original pix . . . I would have said MS62.
AFTER . . .I say 66FB . . . .
Bottom line (and I think what you were getting at in your OP) . . . . you SCORED !!!!!!! And . . . in this case . . . .it panned out to buy when you had an instinct it might be good!
Kudos to you . . . . .
Am I interpreting the post correctly???
Drunner
@DRUNNER
Yes, you're correct on you're interpretation of a before grade and an after the regrade grade.
As for the grades, ya gotta wait.
But I will say this, the coin is not as quite as gold as the trueview, but way nicer than the seller's pics.
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66+FB
Looks 66 FB. Don't think the rim nick will affect the grade.
Nice coin! 66
My guess would have been 66FB for each set of images.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I think it will be 65FB...the dings on the nose, lip and above the head are small, but in focal areas....Cheers, RickO
66fb is what I would grade it. PCGS who knows
64 fb
65? Depends on how the rim ding shows in the holder. I'm no Merc expert, but would want "fuller bands" than these to pay FB money.
Before, I'd have said 64fb. After, 66fb with a possible +. I like it alot. I usually buy from pics looking like the " after ", then it hand it looks like the " before "
From the TV's, I would say 67FB current grade.
Best, SH
Dang, wish you were my grader!!
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66 FB
Before 64FB
After 65+FB
Very nice comments thus far.
Before regrade:
After regrade
So many of you thought it was 66fb, which is exactly what I thought.
It came back the same, but why?
Super clean fields, the luster is there for 66. Better struck than most 28d's. The toning has very nice eye appeal.
Two things I feel may have affected grading higher.
1. The obverse rim ding at 1:00.
2. On this submission I also sent in a very nice 66fb that upgraded to 67fb and a very nice 66+fb that also upgraded to 67fb.
The 28d was coin #3 on submission.
I just was hoping for some insight on this one. Glad so many of you thought the same as me on this one.
Any other thoughts?
The upside on this coin from 65 to 66fb is pretty good.
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Yeah, I didn't pull up a full size TrueView before guessing and missed the rim ding. Probably the limiting factor based on the photos from what I can tell.
The most recent “after” picture doesn’t show the coin in nearly as flattering a light as the initial one did. What are the apparent light splotches in the left obverse field and on Liberty’s face?
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@MFeld
The after picture is a phone shot on my desk. The slab may have reflected some. This picture is the trueview lightened up a bit to show closer what the dime actually looks like in hand.
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Thank you. Based on the TrueView picture, the obverse rim hit is the only thing I see that might keep the coin at the 65 grade level.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@MFeld
Thank you, I value you opinion.
The lightened up trueview has also revealed a slight rub on lower jawline that I hadn't seen on the actual coin. If tilted at just the right angle and rocked back a d forth it shows a bit under the toning.
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I think the rim ding is the only thing holding it back. Great coin.
It appears I had both the before and after grades correct with the first guess out of the gates and just four minutes after you posted the thread! That won't happen again for me.
I chose MS65FB for two reasons. The first is that the nick along the rim on the obverse is pretty distracting and grade limiting, in my opinion, even if it can't be seen well under a gasket. The second is that there seem to be some remarkably clean, attractive and lustrous Mercs that are in PCGS MS65 holders and these coins reminded me of yours.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
I want to thank all of you that commented on this. I really do appreciate all the responses.
Despite a rim ding that I was not aware of until the regrade, and although it didn't go to 66fb as I expected, I still love this coin.
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Very nice coin...especially for a 28-D. I am pretty sure that the rim ding on the obverse is what kept it in a 65 holder. JMHO