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BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,549 ✭✭✭✭✭

Iron Tail (my handle) was one of several Native Americans to pose for Frasers Buffalo Nickel. Fraser stated that the image on the Nickel was not one, but a composite of those who sat for him.

Here's Iron Tail posing with an American Bison (Buffalo):

Quite appropriate, I might add.

Pete

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great picture Pete.....obverse/reverse.....and, visualize the edge :D Cheers, RickO

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,624 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you for the wonderful photo. They misspelled nickel.
    Jim


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  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,064 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Jim beat me to it!

    Do you own this photo, Pete?

    Will throw in a Buff for comparison:

  • 1northcoin1northcoin Posts: 4,959 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 3, 2020 12:00PM

    Anyone know the backstory? My first guess was that scene was from a display at a museum, at least the backdrop with a stuffed Bison. Otherwise, I would suspect the Chief must have had some amazing hypnotic powers ala a Horse Whisperer.

    More likely though a primitive version of Photoshop using photo overlays in the darkroom. (Note the differently divergent directions of the shadows from the Chief as compared to the Bison.)

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Both the Indian and the Buffalo are looking the wrong way in the photo :D

    Very cool photo, BTW.

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow!

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,549 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SeattleSlammer.

    I found the picture online. Copy it if you wish.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,549 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Another good one I found:

    Pete

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,091 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very cool images. I have a vintage print of Two Guns around here and, if I can find it, will share it with you. Two Guns is one of the other Native Americans who was identified as having been part of the composite model for Fraser.

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  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,571 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great photo, history and thread! Wasn't the Buffalo named, "Black Diamond"? 2-feather photo? Lol. :)

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,881 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @joeykoins said:
    Great photo, history and thread! Wasn't the Buffalo named, "Black Diamond"? 2-feather photo? Lol. :)

    You are correct. Black Diamond of the Bronx Zoo was the model for the reverse.

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  • @1northcoin said:
    Anyone know the backstory? My first guess was that scene was from a display at a museum, at least the backdrop with a stuffed Bison. Otherwise, I would suspect the Chief must have had some amazing hypnotic powers ala a Horse Whisperer.

    More likely though a primitive version of Photoshop using photo overlays in the darkroom. (Note the differently divergent directions of the shadows from the Chief as compared to the Bison.)

    I think it is an actual image on location. The shadows are correct (even the people off camera to the left) and there is grass above the Buffalo's hoof. Am I wrong?

  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,571 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's a thought? I acknowledge the fact how the American Indian feels about America because of the obvious, but do you suppose any of Chief Iron Tail's relatives, have a collection of the Buffalo Indian Series? Hm-m-m-m?

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  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,549 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Native Americans like the dateless, worn Nickels.

    They carve out the fields and sell them as jewelry.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • 1northcoin1northcoin Posts: 4,959 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 4, 2020 1:31AM

    @Pearlsbefore said:

    @1northcoin said:
    Anyone know the backstory? My first guess was that scene was from a display at a museum, at least the backdrop with a stuffed Bison. Otherwise, I would suspect the Chief must have had some amazing hypnotic powers ala a Horse Whisperer.

    More likely though a primitive version of Photoshop using photo overlays in the darkroom. (Note the differently divergent directions of the shadows from the Chief as compared to the Bison.)

    I think it is an actual image on location. The shadows are correct (even the people off camera to the left) and there is grass above the Buffalo's hoof. Am I wrong?

    Picture where the sun would have to be to make the visible shadows thrown by the Chief and the Bison. The Chief's is going to the right in a parallel direction. The Bison's is angled forward even from the back of the Bison. Also it is odd that there is no visible shadow from the tall tepees.

    The similarity of the grass under the shadows does suggest that two separate shots, at different points in time, may have been taken with the camera having remained stationary on a tripod.

  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :) !!!

    Timbuk3
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,071 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My love for the buffalo nickel series runs deep <3
    Thanks for sharing the great pics, Pete

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  • wayfarerwayfarer Posts: 93 ✭✭✭

    Great pictures!

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,767 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 5, 2020 9:00AM

    Very cool, but I am partial to this one.

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