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Help with an 1895-P Morgan
CIG
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Hello everyone. I had someone recommend I try these forums as there are quite a few experts here.
A friend of mine found this coin.
I was wondering how I can tell the authenticity of the coin?
It seems to be worth substantial value if real, but I cannot find any references on how to tell a real version from a counterfeit and it seems it is highly counterfeit due to the possible price.
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Modern cheap Chinese knock-off fake counterfeit.
Thank you. Is there a reference or website you have that I may view to gather information?
www.wish.com
I apologize if I wasn't clear in my ask A site that I can view real vs. fake and the identifiers for each. Your help is appreciated!
Braddick is just being sarcastic.
Short answer: not really, there are sites that will point out basic details but building a deep, generalizable understanding comes with some experience that most easily (in my opinion) comes by looking at a significant number of real coins.
Just a side-note about this coin in particular: 1895-P coins are always proofs, and proofs generally have a distinct visual characteristic.
A couple of resources that provide high resolution images of your particular coin:
https://coins.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?Ntk=SI_Titles-Desc&Ne=46&N=790+231+51+1588&Ntt=1895+%241&ic4=Refine-MintMark-102615
https://pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1895-1/7330
You can access even higher resolution images in the first link if you create an account (free, no fees, highly reputable auctioneer).
Perhaps start with the basics, by weighing and measuring it. Try a magnet just to see if it's made of silver plated steel....Then you can get fancy by doing a specific gravity test (always fun to do)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_2vA1qO2fA
Then if all check out post the pics here for another set of eyes.
be safe, be well,
bob
The coinfacts site linked above will show you genuine examples.
There appear to be at least 2 different genuine date positions.
Check this page for a comparison of fake vs. real 1895 dollars:
https://coinweek.com/counterfeits/counterfeit-detection-the-1895-morgan-dollar/
Where did your friend get this coin?
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"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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What @AUand AG said.
The coin is unquestionably a counterfeit with no numismatic value.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Your link is real good stuff. Congrats to you.
Pete
@CIG.... Welcome aboard...Yes, your coin is a counterfeit... and the links provided by @yosclimber and @stealer - along with the video provided by @AUandAG will give you guidance in identifying the various points. Good luck... Cheers, RickO
Welcome to the forum!
It may not have numismatic value. But, it certainly has some value just being a fake of a scarce date with a small mintage....especially if made out of silver. Well made fakes, or vintage fakes often command some nice premiums.
BTW - I think wish.com is a site where you can buy these. If not, try alibaba... You can see more fakes there for comparison.
Here is another one for comparison.
My Eisenhower Dollar Complete Variety Set, Circulation Strikes and Proof (PCGS Registry):
https://www.PCGS.com/SetRegistry/dollars/eisenhower-dollars-specialty-sets/eisenhower-dollars-complete-variety-set-circulation-strikes-proof-1971-1978/publishedset/119137
Darth Morgan - "The Other Ike Dollars" Showcase: https://www.PCGS.com/setregistry/showcase/3354
The Eisenhower Dollar Meeting Room: https://www.facebook.com/groups/933585237044733
Thank you everyone for all the videos and websites, they really help. It's incredible, to an untrained eye, how well things look.
Perry, it's clear based on the replies that the story told to me was erroneous, I find no need to repeat it.
I do have my own collection, although I have just randomly bought over the years and will post it in time.
Thank you again everyone, I really appreciate your help!
welcome, enjoy