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On ebay, I sometimes see pillar type spanish colonial silver coin that are dug up at Civil War sites. Ok, I know in past centuries that coins circulated for long periods of time, more so than today. BUT... was it that common that Civil War soldiers were carrying around pillar type silver coins (that would have been like 110 to 120 years old by the Civil War)? OR.... do these coins come to light at Civil War sites because those sites were ALSO Colonial era sites (virtually all of Virginia for example). What are the thoughts here?

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  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Small Spanish Colonial silver coins were in common use through the first half of the nineteenth century, and they were even counterstamped by U.S. merchants as a kind of advertising in the 1850s. However, foreign coins were made illegal for use in U. S. commerce in 1857, and most of these were turned in to the Government and melted. With the onset of the Civil War, coins of all types quickly began to disappear, especially silver and gold. Fractional currency began to appear in 1862, and postage stamps were used in lieu of small change. Dug coins could easily have been in the ground well before the onset of the Civil War.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with @Sonorandesertrat ...Especially in Virginia, those could have been dropped 30-40 years earlier....Cheers, RickO

  • PistareenPistareen Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭

    The answers here above are correct. These things being listed in Civil War categories says more about the diggers -- and what they went to those sites looking for -- than the coins. I am certainly not opposed to metal detecting (in the vast majority of cases), but this is one proper beef academic archaeologists have with it: an object divorced from its context tells a lot less (or tells the wrong story entirely) vs. one "properly" excavated. Of course, most of these sites have been disturbed by farming, erosion, construction, etc. and there ain't much original context left.

    That being said, coins of that era were still occasionally kicking around into the 1860s.

  • EdHayesEdHayes Posts: 39 ✭✭

    I appreciate the coments. The reason I focused on the pillar coinage is for 2 reasons....1. I can kinda see a Civil War soldier carrying around a very worn portrait Spanish Colonial coin that might still have been kicking around in circulation.. but I would think pillars would mostly have receded from circulation by the Civil War and ....2. I'd like to think that a pillar half reale that I purchased a number of years ago (said to have been found at Civil War site around Fredricksburg, VA) is more likely to have spent its circulation life in that part of Virginia when George Washington and his immediate family resided there.

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,637 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One thing about wars, money from long savings in walls and under beds come out either to support a cause or to support a group of people. So during large wars the coins could have come from old family savings even though not in use at the time.
    Jim


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  • hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Sonorandesertrat said:
    Small Spanish Colonial silver coins were in common use through the first half of the nineteenth century, and they were even counterstamped by U.S. merchants as a kind of advertising in the 1850s. However, foreign coins were made illegal for use in U. S. commerce in 1857, and most of these were turned in to the Government and melted. With the onset of the Civil War, coins of all types quickly began to disappear, especially silver and gold. Fractional currency began to appear in 1862, and postage stamps were used in lieu of small change. Dug coins could easily have been in the ground well before the onset of the Civil War.

    Great post!

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting read I like

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