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Are any 1795-1840 US coins definitively linked to contemporary famous Americans?

topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

Key word "contemporary." I'd like to see a coin that's PROVEN to be linked to an early American.
And ......not....an early American coin collector.

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  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool stuff, folks. :)

    Any more?

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @fishteeth said:
    Commodore Perry. born 1794. Was not famous until after 1840. so may not be what you were looking for. He was also a collector, could have pulled this one out of circulation somewhere in the early 1800s

    Or even later. Coins weren't of much importance other than ...money... for a long time.

  • Wahoo554Wahoo554 Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @fishteeth said:
    Commodore Perry. born 1794. Was not famous until after 1840. so may not be what you were looking for. He was also a collector, could have pulled this one out of circulation somewhere in the early 1800s

    That is a very attractive coin.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,855 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is a medal, not a coin, but the Libertas Americana medals, which celebrated the signing of the Treaty of Paris which gave the United States its independence, were conceived, sponsored and personal distributed by Benjamin Franklin. He gave gold medals to the king and queen of France, which were subsequently destroyed, probably during the French Revolution, silver medals to more important officials, like George Washington, and bronze medals to lesser officials, like members of Congress.

    Who knows? Maybe Franklin handed this piece personally.


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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,343 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1839 Eagles are supposedly all coined from gold left to the US by the estate of James Smithson to establish what is now the Smithsonian Institution. Of course, he died about 10 years earlier, so he never had one of them as an 1839 eagle.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,488 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I know that there is a $5 Confederate banknote that was in Abraham Lincoln's wallet when he was assassinated.

  • BustDMsBustDMs Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, let’s see, J. Q. Adams had a coin collection that was begun by his father John. Stacks sold it in the early 1970’s and the funds were used to preserve the documents left by the Adams family.

    Andrew Jackson was also presented with (I believe) the first Classic Head Half Eagle minted. It is referenced in a biography of him written by Remini. It appears that it has been lost to history as I checked with The Hermitage Museum and they have no record of the coin.

    Of course, two of the most famous US coins to have direct links to our famous ancestors is Thomas Jefferson and the half diems of 1792 and Rittenhouse owning all the 1794 dollars. There is no denying the original owners of these two classics.

    Aaron Burr also had a coin collection that was sold in Europe (I believe) to help pay expenses after he fled there subsequent to his famous duel with Hamilton.

    That’s all that come to mind just now, but I’m sure there are others as it was common for intellectuals of this time period to have an interest in the classical coinages of Greece and Rome as well as in medals.

    I’m looking forward to hearing of others.......

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    A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.



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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 25, 2020 12:27PM

    The reason the John Adams / John Quincy Adams coins can be traced is that they were in the collection of the Massachusetts Historical Society, before being sold off.

    The following is from Harvey Stack.

    The numismatic items from the Adams family were first stored at the MHS, and were never fully inventoried or studied. In the 1950s the collection was moved to the Museum of Fine Arts in Boston (MFA) to be reviewed and evaluated. Because of its size, this job was worked on slowly. As funds and people were not available to do this, the collection was not fully cataloged or available and selling it was considered as an option.

    Under the supervision of Cornelius Vermeule, the numismatic curator at MFA and later director of the museum, with the assistance of Mary Comstock of the museum staff, the collection of coins, medals and other numismatic material was cataloged. After the work was done, it was suggested that the collection be sold at public auction in order to provide the funds to properly microfilm and preserve the entire document collection.

    https://www.coinbooks.org/esylum_v15n21a24.html

  • lcutlerlcutler Posts: 650 ✭✭✭✭

    There is the engraved 1860 double eagle that was recovered from the Confederate submarine Hunley. It saved the life of Lt. Dixon at Shiloh, but couldn't help him on the Hunley.

  • SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    I know that there is a $5 Confederate banknote that was in Abraham Lincoln's wallet when he was assassinated.

    I wonder where that is, if it even exists anymore? There have been many theories as to why he had it in the first place.

    Tir nam beann, nan gleann, s'nan gaisgeach ~ Saorstat Albanaich a nis!
  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it's in the Smithsonian, it does exist. I've seen it documented but don't recall where.

    ANA-LM, NBS, EAC
  • ThreeCentSilverFLThreeCentSilverFL Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great post. Cool stuff.

  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,645 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There was a 1795 $10 with provenance to Martha Washington, stolen from Yale, c. 1960. Never recovered.

    There is an 1829 half dime w/letter of transmittal from Adam Eckfeldt to Robert M. Patterson.

    There is a Comitia Americana medal with transmittal letter to the recipient (I think Gates, not 100% sure).

    The 1838 $5s are mostly ex. Smithson but there were some extras so you can't be sure. I was looking at Nat. Archives correspondence this week related to coining these. English coins melted & recoined into American ones.

  • GoBustGoBust Posts: 605 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 26, 2020 7:18AM

    Good argument that Rittenhouse and Jefferson handled the silver centered cents.

  • GoBustGoBust Posts: 605 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 26, 2020 7:18AM

    Jefferson had splasher set of Comitia Americana medals from France.

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