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Counterfeit 1878-CC Morgan PCGS MS65 on eBay ---- Please Report

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  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭


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  • YQQYQQ Posts: 3,341 ✭✭✭✭✭

    would you please be so kind and elaborate??
    you won the coin?
    so now you own it... and at the same time you indicate that it is a forgery...???
    this logic beats me... maybe I ate to many colored easter eggs?

    Today is the first day of the rest of my life
  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,409 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @YQQ said:
    would you please be so kind and elaborate??
    you won the coin?
    so now you own it... and at the same time you indicate that it is a forgery...???
    this logic beats me... maybe I ate to many colored easter eggs?

    Counterfeit coin in a counterfeit slab. He won the auction to ensure no one got fooled and actually bought it. I'm sure he didn't pay.

    JK Coin Photography - eBay Consignments | High Quality Photos | LOW Prices | 20% of Consignment Proceeds Go to Pancreatic Cancer Research
  • bearcavebearcave Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @airplanenut said:

    @YQQ said:
    would you please be so kind and elaborate??
    you won the coin?
    so now you own it... and at the same time you indicate that it is a forgery...???
    this logic beats me... maybe I ate to many colored easter eggs?

    Counterfeit coin in a counterfeit slab. He won the auction to ensure no one got fooled and actually bought it. I'm sure he didn't pay.

    I hope he didn't pay! :o

    Ken
  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @airplanenut said:
    Counterfeit coin in a counterfeit slab.

    How can you tell the slab is a counterfeit??

  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,409 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bearcave said:

    @airplanenut said:

    @YQQ said:
    would you please be so kind and elaborate??
    you won the coin?
    so now you own it... and at the same time you indicate that it is a forgery...???
    this logic beats me... maybe I ate to many colored easter eggs?

    Counterfeit coin in a counterfeit slab. He won the auction to ensure no one got fooled and actually bought it. I'm sure he didn't pay.

    I hope he didn't pay! :o

    I trust he can live up to his name on this one

    JK Coin Photography - eBay Consignments | High Quality Photos | LOW Prices | 20% of Consignment Proceeds Go to Pancreatic Cancer Research
  • bearcavebearcave Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @airplanenut said:

    @bearcave said:

    @airplanenut said:

    @YQQ said:
    would you please be so kind and elaborate??
    you won the coin?
    so now you own it... and at the same time you indicate that it is a forgery...???
    this logic beats me... maybe I ate to many colored easter eggs?

    Counterfeit coin in a counterfeit slab. He won the auction to ensure no one got fooled and actually bought it. I'm sure he didn't pay.

    I hope he didn't pay! :o

    I trust he can live up to his name on this one

    I hope!! LOL

    Ken
  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 13, 2020 8:10AM

    Nice catch & save. :)

    Wrong reverse.

    Edited to add: Link to seller after listing is removed.
    https://www.ebay.com/sch/Coins-Paper-Money/11116/m.html?item=174244073296&nordt=true&nma=true&orig_cvip=true&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&si=Ne3hFa9cUtffOMbmM67xpIYEIno%3D&_ssn=gra4719

  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,409 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Jimnight said:
    @airplanenut said:
    Counterfeit coin in a counterfeit slab.

    How can you tell the slab is a counterfeit??

    Font looks a bit off, and the coin looks way off

    JK Coin Photography - eBay Consignments | High Quality Photos | LOW Prices | 20% of Consignment Proceeds Go to Pancreatic Cancer Research
  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @airplanenut said:

    @Jimnight said:
    @airplanenut said:
    Counterfeit coin in a counterfeit slab.

    How can you tell the slab is a counterfeit??

    Font looks a bit off, and the coin looks way off

    The coin shows up in the PCGS contfacts ... so this would means the the whole ball of wax is counterfeited ?

  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭

    @Jimnight said:

    @airplanenut said:

    @Jimnight said:
    @airplanenut said:
    Counterfeit coin in a counterfeit slab.

    How can you tell the slab is a counterfeit??

    Font looks a bit off, and the coin looks way off

    The coin shows up in the PCGS contfacts ... so this would means the the whole ball of wax is counterfeited ?

    The cert number is taken from a genuine coin and then a counterfeit label is printed and encapsulated by the counterfeiter with the counterfeit coin. They used to take the cert numbers right from Heritage, and you could easily find a photo of the genuine slab/coin, but they have gotten slightly better at their craft.

    I bid on the coin and shilled it with another one of my accounts to a price well beyond its true value, even if it was genuine, so an unsuspecting buyer would not win it. I have messaged the seller, who I don't think was trying to rip anyone off. I think he just didn't know. I sent him a link to this thread as well.

    -Paul

    Many Quality coins for sale at http://www.CommonCentsRareCoins.com
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @commoncents05 .... Thanks, nice move. And thanks for the link/pictures. Cheers, RickO

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,946 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @commoncents05 said:

    @Jimnight said:

    @airplanenut said:

    @Jimnight said:
    @airplanenut said:
    Counterfeit coin in a counterfeit slab.

    How can you tell the slab is a counterfeit??

    Font looks a bit off, and the coin looks way off

    The coin shows up in the PCGS contfacts ... so this would means the the whole ball of wax is counterfeited ?

    The cert number is taken from a genuine coin and then a counterfeit label is printed and encapsulated by the counterfeiter with the counterfeit coin. They used to take the cert numbers right from Heritage, and you could easily find a photo of the genuine slab/coin, but they have gotten slightly better at their craft.

    I bid on the coin and shilled it with another one of my accounts to a price well beyond its true value, even if it was genuine, so an unsuspecting buyer would not win it. I have messaged the seller, who I don't think was trying to rip anyone off. I think he just didn't know. I sent him a link to this thread as well.

    -Paul

    Don't think he's aware? Really, how hard is it to verify, at least closely, the Mickey Mantle Autographed baseball? Mantle sig is way off.

    bob
    PS: reported both

    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • SilverProofQuarter1883SilverProofQuarter1883 Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How is it counterfeit ?

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @markelman1125 said:
    How is it counterfeit ?

    Wrong reverse die

  • burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 13, 2020 2:20PM

    Here is the image courtesy Heritage:

    Barcode certainly doesn't line up...

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @burfle23
    Excellent work.

  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭

    Good stuff

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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,280 ✭✭✭✭✭

    good job saving someone from being burned!

  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good job! B)

  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,697 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice work

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  • ReadyFireAimReadyFireAim Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow!...They are getting scary good on the slabs.
    Nice catch

    My Saint Set

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,342 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ifthevamzarockin said:

    @markelman1125 said:
    How is it counterfeit ?

    Wrong reverse die

    For starters. Detail is flat and mushy, and I'm guessing it's a few grams light.

    John
    Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution
  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great job, thank you !!! :)

    Timbuk3
  • YQQYQQ Posts: 3,341 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks guys. Am also wondering what our hosts position is to ca case like that??

    Today is the first day of the rest of my life

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