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My newp 1851 seated dollar (slightly modified)

pcgs69pcgs69 Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭✭

Ok ok a bit of click bait but I thought this was pretty neat. Been out of coin collecting for a while now but am working at a pawn shop that sees all kinds of cool silver. This just came through and I picked it up for silver value.

Coin silver spoon engraved:
Made from silver dollars in 1851
In East Hampton LI for
Gloriann and Samuel T Stratton
For EPM Jr

Not 100% sure on the names/initials but thought it was a neat piece. It really makes you wonder what silver dollars went into making this spoon. Maybe 1851 seated? Draped bust?




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    thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Could have been Spanish/Hispanic 8 real dollars.

    thefinn
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    HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    An awesome repurposing!

    The top mark writeup below; but, cannot confirm the bottom but probably stands for NY.

    “Theodore Evans & Company
    New York NY
    Active c.1855 - 1865
    Evans worked for William Gale before founding his own firm. Primarily a producer of coin silver flatware, although occasionally a piece of holloware is seen. Succeeded by Evans & Cook before being acquired by George Shiebler in 1870.”

    https://www.925-1000.com/

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    pcgs69pcgs69 Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 23, 2020 9:15PM

    The top one is
    TE & Co NY

    There is another stamp of CM Baker below that a couple inches. Hopefully these are clear enough!


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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pcgs69....That is an interesting piece... one wonders about the family/history. Cool job, bet there are some good stories there... Cheers, RickO

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,453 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That’s awesome! Paging @Weiss >:)

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    WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is pretty cool!

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame
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    LJenkins11LJenkins11 Posts: 859 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is super cool, thanks for sharing.

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    JesseKraftJesseKraft Posts: 417 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Whoa! Very cool! There must have been a whole set of them at one time.
    Samuel Stratton and Gloriana Conklin of Hook, NY (now a part of East Hampton) were married by E.C. Wines on May 20, 1851. I wonder who E.P.M. Jr. was?
    How many silver dollars did it take to make?

    Jesse C. Kraft, Ph.D.
    Resolute Americana Curator of American Numismatics
    American Numismatic Society
    New York City

    Member of the American Numismatic Association (ANA), British Numismatic Society (BNS), New York Numismatic Club (NYNC), Early American Copper (EAC), the Colonial Coin Collectors Club (C4), U.S. Mexican Numismatic Association (USMNA), Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC), Token and Medal Society (TAMS), and life member of the Atlantic County Numismatic Society (ACNS).
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    Alltheabove76Alltheabove76 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭✭

    @JesseKraft said:
    Whoa! Very cool! There must have been a whole set of them at one time.
    Samuel Stratton and Gloriana Conklin of Hook, NY (now a part of East Hampton) were married by E.C. Wines on May 20, 1851. I wonder who E.P.M. Jr. was?
    How many silver dollars did it take to make?

    EPM was Edwin P Maynard, president of the Brooklyn Trust Co.

    https://newspapers.com/clip/48530204/obituary-for-frank-s-stratton-aged-75/

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    Alltheabove76Alltheabove76 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭✭

    Interestingly, EPM (Edwin P Maynard) married Glorianna in 1891, after Samuel died.

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    JesseKraftJesseKraft Posts: 417 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 12, 2020 7:58AM

    @Alltheabove76 said:
    EPM was Edwin P Maynard, president of the Brooklyn Trust Co.
    [...]
    Interestingly, EPM (Edwin P Maynard) married Glorianna in 1891, after Samuel died.

    Where did you find that EPM and Glorianna married after 1891? I see that EPM was married to Samuel and Glorianna's daughter (Frank Stratton's sister).

    Jesse C. Kraft, Ph.D.
    Resolute Americana Curator of American Numismatics
    American Numismatic Society
    New York City

    Member of the American Numismatic Association (ANA), British Numismatic Society (BNS), New York Numismatic Club (NYNC), Early American Copper (EAC), the Colonial Coin Collectors Club (C4), U.S. Mexican Numismatic Association (USMNA), Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC), Token and Medal Society (TAMS), and life member of the Atlantic County Numismatic Society (ACNS).
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    Alltheabove76Alltheabove76 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭✭

    Marriage record on Ancestry says he married a Glorianna Stratton in 1891.

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    ThreeCentSilverFLThreeCentSilverFL Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool piece with nice history

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    JesseKraftJesseKraft Posts: 417 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 12, 2020 7:59AM

    @Alltheabove76 said:

    EPM was Edwin P Maynard, president of the Brooklyn Trust Co.

    This is not the same person. The EPM that was President/Chairman of the Brooklyn Trust from 1913 until his death in 1949 was born in 1864. The EPM, Jr. on the spoon was probably his father.

    Jesse C. Kraft, Ph.D.
    Resolute Americana Curator of American Numismatics
    American Numismatic Society
    New York City

    Member of the American Numismatic Association (ANA), British Numismatic Society (BNS), New York Numismatic Club (NYNC), Early American Copper (EAC), the Colonial Coin Collectors Club (C4), U.S. Mexican Numismatic Association (USMNA), Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC), Token and Medal Society (TAMS), and life member of the Atlantic County Numismatic Society (ACNS).
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    JesseKraftJesseKraft Posts: 417 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 12, 2020 8:09AM

    @Alltheabove76 said:
    Marriage record on Ancestry says he married a Glorianna Stratton in 1891.

    Based on the dates of when he lived and the obituary you posted, I'm going to assume these were the children of those named on the spoon.

    Jesse C. Kraft, Ph.D.
    Resolute Americana Curator of American Numismatics
    American Numismatic Society
    New York City

    Member of the American Numismatic Association (ANA), British Numismatic Society (BNS), New York Numismatic Club (NYNC), Early American Copper (EAC), the Colonial Coin Collectors Club (C4), U.S. Mexican Numismatic Association (USMNA), Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC), Token and Medal Society (TAMS), and life member of the Atlantic County Numismatic Society (ACNS).
    Become a member of the American Numismatic Society!

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    Alltheabove76Alltheabove76 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭✭
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    goldengolden Posts: 10,459 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Way cool!

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    MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Major cool!!!

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    CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,652 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 12, 2020 11:24AM

    Now, let's melt it down to figure out if those were Spanish silver dollars or U.S. silver dollars :)

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