Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
What I was first drawn to is the luster spread throughout the spaces of what I’ll call simply, “the leaves” toward the bottom of the banners on the reverse. Could totally be the pic or lighting but it’s what my eyes are seeing. Would make me thinK it’s not aged genuinely. That’s JUST me.
"Today the crumbs, tomorrow the
loaf. Perhaps someday the whole damn boulangerie." - fictional Jack Rackham
@50cCOMMEMGUY said:
What I was first drawn to is the luster spread throughout the spaces of what I’ll call simply, “the leaves” toward the bottom of the banners on the reverse. Could totally be the pic or lighting but it’s what my eyes are seeing. Would make me thinK it’s not aged genuinely. That’s JUST me.
I see nothing suspicious looking in that regard.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@50cCOMMEMGUY said:
What I was first drawn to is the luster spread throughout the spaces of what I’ll call simply, “the leaves” toward the bottom of the banners on the reverse. Could totally be the pic or lighting but it’s what my eyes are seeing. Would make me thinK it’s not aged genuinely. That’s JUST me.
I see nothing suspicious looking in that regard.
Mark,
I would 100% most definitely yield to your experience. 👍🏻
"Today the crumbs, tomorrow the
loaf. Perhaps someday the whole damn boulangerie." - fictional Jack Rackham
@50cCOMMEMGUY said:
What I was first drawn to is the luster spread throughout the spaces of what I’ll call simply, “the leaves” toward the bottom of the banners on the reverse. Could totally be the pic or lighting but it’s what my eyes are seeing. Would make me thinK it’s not aged genuinely. That’s JUST me.
Luster is diminished by rub. Recessed areas are protected from rub. I'll let you connect the dots.
I hear you totally, but wouldn’t there be minimal expectation to at least see some darkening or loss of luster, or maybe the ever so slightest build up of crud in said recessed areas? I’m just surprised to see any luster whatsoever on a piece so well worn otherwise. I’m NOWHERE near an expert on this. But from a pocket piece “outsiders” point of view it seems odd.
"Today the crumbs, tomorrow the
loaf. Perhaps someday the whole damn boulangerie." - fictional Jack Rackham
@50cCOMMEMGUY said:
I hear you totally, but wouldn’t there be minimal expectation to at least see some darkening or loss of luster, or maybe the ever so slightest build up of crud in said recessed areas? I’m just surprised to see any luster whatsoever on a piece so well worn otherwise. I’m NOWHERE near an expert on this. But from a pocket piece “outsiders” point of view it seems odd.
NO expert, but visualizing how a literal pocket piece would age and wear, what you show seems very plausible. Quite different from circulation wear, in other words.
@50cCOMMEMGUY said:
I hear you totally, but wouldn’t there be minimal expectation to at least see some darkening or loss of luster, or maybe the ever so slightest build up of crud in said recessed areas? I’m just surprised to see any luster whatsoever on a piece so well worn otherwise. I’m NOWHERE near an expert on this. But from a pocket piece “outsiders” point of view it seems odd.
The broad areas of the coin that are slightly recessed do show a lack of luster. Deeply recessed areas are all but impossible to touch on that particular design. "Crud" is highly dependent on the individual coin. Look at a hundred random well-circulated cents. Some of them will be very clean. Others, more or less cruddy.
That is a beautiful coin, I started and subsequently abandoned a circulated classic commem set, that would have looked right at home there.
Sean Reynolds
Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
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I like it. If that coin could talk........I would listen.
Looks like a legitimate pocket piece.
What I was first drawn to is the luster spread throughout the spaces of what I’ll call simply, “the leaves” toward the bottom of the banners on the reverse. Could totally be the pic or lighting but it’s what my eyes are seeing. Would make me thinK it’s not aged genuinely. That’s JUST me.
"Today the crumbs, tomorrow the
loaf. Perhaps someday the whole damn boulangerie." - fictional Jack Rackham
I see nothing suspicious looking in that regard.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Mark,
I would 100% most definitely yield to your experience. 👍🏻
"Today the crumbs, tomorrow the
loaf. Perhaps someday the whole damn boulangerie." - fictional Jack Rackham
Luster is diminished by rub. Recessed areas are protected from rub. I'll let you connect the dots.
I hear you totally, but wouldn’t there be minimal expectation to at least see some darkening or loss of luster, or maybe the ever so slightest build up of crud in said recessed areas? I’m just surprised to see any luster whatsoever on a piece so well worn otherwise. I’m NOWHERE near an expert on this. But from a pocket piece “outsiders” point of view it seems odd.
"Today the crumbs, tomorrow the
loaf. Perhaps someday the whole damn boulangerie." - fictional Jack Rackham
NO expert, but visualizing how a literal pocket piece would age and wear, what you show seems very plausible. Quite different from circulation wear, in other words.
The broad areas of the coin that are slightly recessed do show a lack of luster. Deeply recessed areas are all but impossible to touch on that particular design. "Crud" is highly dependent on the individual coin. Look at a hundred random well-circulated cents. Some of them will be very clean. Others, more or less cruddy.
Looks to me like a pocket piece that spent a lot of time in a busy pocket...
Cheers, RickO
That is a beautiful coin, I started and subsequently abandoned a circulated classic commem set, that would have looked right at home there.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
Looks like a pocketpiece to me. From the bit of toning on the edges I would say that it may have spent time in an album.
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I took it out of an album . Good guess !
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