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Kirk222Kirk222 Posts: 477 ✭✭✭✭

I think like the one over her right shoulder looks like a star. The other one further down the arm is also strange. Anyone got a clue to these?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1921-P-25c-Standing-Liberty-Silver-Quarter-Uncirculated-Key-w-Full-Head-Scarce/264667272746?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1431.l2649

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 12,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Die clash

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,084 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes. Turn the coin over and look at the reverse directly behind the marks in question. The two dies hit without a planchet in between them, and some of the design of one die was transferred, backwards, onto the other die, and from there to the coins struck from the damaged dies.

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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,873 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Be careful buying a raw $1400 coin.

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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,873 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Kirk222 said:

    @Smudge said:
    Be careful buying a raw $1400 coin.

    Are you saying that because of the scratch on the obverse and/or the gouge on the reverse? Think it might grade "details"?

    Saying why is a $1400 coin still raw? There are still some good raw coins floating around, just be careful when buying them. Plenty of good counterfeits and coins that will not straight grade floating around too.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Smudge said:

    @Kirk222 said:

    @Smudge said:
    Be careful buying a raw $1400 coin.

    Are you saying that because of the scratch on the obverse and/or the gouge on the reverse? Think it might grade "details"?

    Saying why is a $1400 coin still raw? There are still some good raw coins floating around, just be careful when buying them. Plenty of good counterfeits and coins that will not straight grade floating around too.

    A $1400 coin is still raw because some folks don't use TPGS's! In 1986 there were several major dealers who said they would never send a coin off to be graded. Over the years, most of them have changed their mind. There are still some smaller dealers who don't have a slab in their case. If I were a well off dealer, I'd probably be one of them. I'd price the coin as if it were graded and a potential buyer can take it or leave it.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Definitely a die clash....However, not because of the clash, but because of the price, I would never buy a coin at that price, not slabbed, that I could not examine 'in hand'...or have a trusted expert evaluate it for me. Cheers, RickO

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,081 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm very suspicious of a coin that expensive being sold raw. It may have been cleaned with hairlines which are not visible in his pics or it may have been cracked out of an AU58 slab. Hard pass.

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  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,317 ✭✭✭✭✭

    $1400 is a lot of dough to bet on a coin that you cannot examine up close and in hand. IMO. Peace Roy

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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :o

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