Hi! New guy here and I feel like a thief in the night!

50cCOMMEMGUY · March 12, 2020 4:06PM

First off, hello, new guy around here.
I’ve been collecting for quite awhile but I’ve been out of “the scene” for the last several years. Now, I’m back with a vengeance. I previously lurked over at the NGC forums many years ago, and nothing bad to say about NGC, AT ALL, but I’ve gravitated more to PCGS as of late.
I recently joined up and just sent my first PCGS sub of 5 cracked NGC and old ANACS early commems.
Early commems are my thing and at one point almost completed a type set. I will however snag ANY type of half that is: uncirculated AND silver, that I like.

Now for the thief part! (I know, catchy title)
I snagged this off fleabay last night for what I think was almost criminal.

bearcave · March 12, 2020 4:07PM

Great catch, and welcome!

Jimnight · March 12, 2020 4:10PM

Very nice!

Smudge · March 12, 2020 4:36PM

Welcome. Nice one.

Namvet69 · March 12, 2020 4:39PM

Your determination paid off. Nice half. Peace Roy

Walkerfan · March 12, 2020 4:43PM

Great grab!

And welcome!!

DollarAfterDollar · March 12, 2020 5:29PM

That's a nice commem in hAd. One of the more attractive ones IMO.

Welcome to the messageboard.

sparky64 · March 12, 2020 5:39PM

Congrats, I'm a big fan of the Texas.
That has to be the busiest reverse ever.
Sooo much going on.

Klif50 · March 12, 2020 7:19PM

Do you have the coin in hand? Probably not since you just won it last night. One of the cardinal rules of this group is you never publicly brag about getting a killer deal on a coin before you actually have it in your possession. Perhaps the owner or seller might read what you wrote and change their mind about shipping it. It has happened many times in the past.

bolivarshagnasty · March 12, 2020 7:23PM

Welcome to the forum. If no one else will point it out, I will. The reason that coin was a "rip" is that it has been stripped of any mint luster from over dipping. It's flat white and dull. Most white commems have been dipped at some point, and if not overdone, can look really good. Nothing can be done to yours to restore that luster. Most of the posters to this thread know this, but don't want to discourage you. I don't want to discourage you either, but want you to make an informed decision in the future.

ParlousJoe · March 12, 2020 7:39PM

Relative of Justacommeman huh? Welcome here and a nice half you found for yourself!

bombtech25 · March 12, 2020 7:40PM

@bolivarshagnasty said:
Welcome to the forum. If no one else will point it out, I will. The reason that coin was a "rip" is that it has been stripped of any mint luster from over dipping. It's flat white and dull. Most white commems have been dipped at some point, and if not overdone, can look really good. Nothing can be done to yours to restore that luster. Most of the posters to this thread know this, but don't want to discourage you. I don't want to discourage you either, but want you to make an informed decision in the future.

>

But didn’t the people we send all our money and shiny things to think differently?

DIMEMAN · March 12, 2020 7:58PM

@bolivarshagnasty said:
Welcome to the forum. If no one else will point it out, I will. The reason that coin was a "rip" is that it has been stripped of any mint luster from over dipping. It's flat white and dull. Most white commems have been dipped at some point, and if not overdone, can look really good. Nothing can be done to yours to restore that luster. Most of the posters to this thread know this, but don't want to discourage you. I don't want to discourage you either, but want you to make an informed decision in the future.

I was thinking the same about it being washed out, but thought it might just be a bad over exposed photo.

TwoSides2aCoin · March 12, 2020 8:03PM

Welcome. Dont let your (coin) feelings get in the way of the coin facts. Great time to collect Commemoratives.

bolivarshagnasty · March 12, 2020 8:11PM

@bombtech25 said:

@bolivarshagnasty said:
Welcome to the forum. If no one else will point it out, I will. The reason that coin was a "rip" is that it has been stripped of any mint luster from over dipping. It's flat white and dull. Most white commems have been dipped at some point, and if not overdone, can look really good. Nothing can be done to yours to restore that luster. Most of the posters to this thread know this, but don't want to discourage you. I don't want to discourage you either, but want you to make an informed decision in the future.

>

But didn’t the people we send all our money and shiny things to think differently?

I see nothing on the slabs label that would indicate the encapsulated coin is an outstanding lustrous coin or a flat white dull coin. I see a technical grade that MIGHT include eye appeal. All MS66 coins are not alike.

crazyhounddog · March 12, 2020 8:34PM

Good for you👌
Welcome aboard

koynekwest · March 12, 2020 10:35PM

Welcome! I find the environment here much friendlier than across the street. Much more active, too.

Paradisefound · March 12, 2020 10:38PM

Welcome to CU family ..... let see what you have!

50cCOMMEMGUY · March 13, 2020 4:21AM

@Klif50 said:
Do you have the coin in hand? Probably not since you just won it last night. One of the cardinal rules of this group is you never publicly brag about getting a killer deal on a coin before you actually have it in your possession. Perhaps the owner or seller might read what you wrote and change their mind about shipping it. It has happened many times in the past.

Oh I’m well aware of this. Remember as the buyer I’m privy to shipping info everyone isn’t. That info at the point of posting indicated the coin had already been received by usps and had left it’s origin city. Been around the block my man!
😉

50cCOMMEMGUY · March 13, 2020 4:26AM

@bolivarshagnasty said:
Welcome to the forum. If no one else will point it out, I will. The reason that coin was a "rip" is that it has been stripped of any mint luster from over dipping. It's flat white and dull. Most white commems have been dipped at some point, and if not overdone, can look really good. Nothing can be done to yours to restore that luster. Most of the posters to this thread know this, but don't want to discourage you. I don't want to discourage you either, but want you to make an informed decision in the future.

Know what you’re saying too and I appreciate sincerely you’re education, while most likely non-applicable in this situation. I have bought from this seller before and their pics have never done justice to the luster of the coins I received.
I don’t look for bleached out uggos.

Absolutely true each coin is different and there is a chance this one is different. NO DOUBT. However, I snagged this coin under blue sheet and as such the bottom line is I could BIN it in a minute for 180-200 on eBay and most likely dump it within a week. Thus, near zero risk of loss to me other than some time.

50cCOMMEMGUY · March 13, 2020 4:31AM

@ParlousJoe said:
Relative of Justacommeman huh? Welcome here and a nice half you found for yourself!

No. Who was he/she?
If it helps, and I doubt it because it was like 15 years ago, I used to be known as ROBERTB on the NGC forums. I remember TomB from back then and I see he’s active here still. He always took great pics and I recall he liked coins with natural skin. 😊

astrorat · March 13, 2020 4:42AM

Welcome!

The Texas commems are nice coins.

Good luck with your purchase and I hope those over-exposed images are not hiding an over-dipped, over-graded coin. Based on the images, I understand why it nobody bid it higher. Hopefully you are a winner with this one.

ricko · March 13, 2020 4:46AM

@50cCOMMEMGUY....Welcome back and a nice 'theft' indeed...certainly a good price. Perhaps show us a picture when you get the coin in hand....Cheers, RickO

MFeld · March 13, 2020 4:52AM

@Klif50 said:
Do you have the coin in hand? Probably not since you just won it last night. One of the cardinal rules of this group is you never publicly brag about getting a killer deal on a coin before you actually have it in your possession. Perhaps the owner or seller might read what you wrote and change their mind about shipping it. It has happened many times in the past.

I wouldn’t call it a “killer deal”. I would have expected the coin to sell for about $180. Perhaps a “good deal”, instead? 😉

jmlanzaf · March 13, 2020 4:53AM

@bolivarshagnasty said:

@bombtech25 said:

@bolivarshagnasty said:
Welcome to the forum. If no one else will point it out, I will. The reason that coin was a "rip" is that it has been stripped of any mint luster from over dipping. It's flat white and dull. Most white commems have been dipped at some point, and if not overdone, can look really good. Nothing can be done to yours to restore that luster. Most of the posters to this thread know this, but don't want to discourage you. I don't want to discourage you either, but want you to make an informed decision in the future.

>

But didn’t the people we send all our money and shiny things to think differently?

I see nothing on the slabs label that would indicate the encapsulated coin is an outstanding lustrous coin or a flat white dull coin. I see a technical grade that MIGHT include eye appeal. All MS66 coins are not alike.

I've never seen a pcgs 66 commem that was stripped of all luster as you suggest. I think you are going to discover you are quite wrong if the OP posts new photos.

I don't understand why you would even post such a criticism of the OP and our host when you haven't even seen the coin.

bombtech25 · March 13, 2020 6:08AM

@jmlanzaf said:

I don't understand why you would even post such a criticism of the OP and our host when you haven't even seen the coin.

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It’s a commem measuring contest, he felt threatened. You can tell by ordering of pictures in reply. 1. Hold it right there. I am Chief of commems. 2. Ka kaw (freedom of coin speech) Ka kaw (dominance in commems) 3. Awaiting replies

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DIMEMAN · March 13, 2020 8:12AM

@bombtech25 said:

@jmlanzaf said:

I don't understand why you would even post such a criticism of the OP and our host when you haven't even seen the coin.

>
It’s a commem measuring contest, he felt threatened. You can tell by ordering of pictures in reply. 1. Hold it right there. I am Chief of commems. 2. Ka kaw (freedom of coin speech) Ka kaw (dominance in commems) 3. Awaiting replies

I know @bolivarshagnasty and he is not that way at all. You took his post wrong.

JBK · March 13, 2020 9:17AM

@50cCOMMEMGUY said:

Know what you’re saying too and I appreciate sincerely you’re education, while most likely non-applicable in this situation. I have bought from this seller before and their pics have never done justice to the luster of the coins I received.
I don’t look for bleached out uggos.

If that coin does arrive with full luster, then stand back!

I have no idea how big a deal it was/wasn't but if it looks good in hand then it is a great coin to own.

1Mike1 · March 13, 2020 10:02AM

@bolivarshagnasty said:
Welcome to the forum. If no one else will point it out, I will. The reason that coin was a "rip" is that it has been stripped of any mint luster from over dipping. It's flat white and dull. Most white commems have been dipped at some point, and if not overdone, can look really good. Nothing can be done to yours to restore that luster. Most of the posters to this thread know this, but don't want to discourage you. I don't want to discourage you either, but want you to make an informed decision in the future.

Good point, I didn't notice until you pointed it out.

ChrisH821 · March 13, 2020 10:10AM

I like the Texas commems.
FWIW those pictures look like scans, and scans never show luster. Let us know how it looks once you receive it.

SeattleSlammer · March 13, 2020 10:24AM

@ChrisH821 said:
I like the Texas commems.
FWIW those pictures look like scans, and scans never show luster. Let us know how it looks once you receive it.

+1

jmlanzaf · March 13, 2020 10:25AM

@ChrisH821 said:
I like the Texas commems.
FWIW those pictures look like scans, and scans never show luster. Let us know how it looks once you receive it.

agree. No way a PCGS 66 looks like that in-hand.

jmlanzaf · March 13, 2020 10:25AM

@1Mike1 said:

@bolivarshagnasty said:
Welcome to the forum. If no one else will point it out, I will. The reason that coin was a "rip" is that it has been stripped of any mint luster from over dipping. It's flat white and dull. Most white commems have been dipped at some point, and if not overdone, can look really good. Nothing can be done to yours to restore that luster. Most of the posters to this thread know this, but don't want to discourage you. I don't want to discourage you either, but want you to make an informed decision in the future.

Good point, I didn't notice until you pointed it out.

photo artifact

50cCOMMEMGUY · March 13, 2020 10:37AM

When it arrives I’ll get pics up. Haven’t tried to take any coin pics yet with my iPhone. It’ll be interesting.

BuffaloIronTail · March 13, 2020 11:33AM

People post their coins here for accolades, not criticism. I've learned that being critical around here will sometimes lead to a nuclear explosion.

Right, Skip?

Pete

Swampboy · March 13, 2020 12:56PM

50cCOMMEMGUY · March 17, 2020 4:22PM

So she arrived and I’d say on a hypothetical 10 point luster scale where 1 is bleached out flat as hell and 10 is lustrous to the point of a glowing aura I’d give it a 8. It’s pretty much exactly what I was expecting.

I’ve tried repeatedly to photograph it correctly and I just cannot get it. I’m nowhere close to properly set up for coin imaging. I’ll be putting a batch together in the next few weeks to get TV’ed and it’ll be in there. I’m a big fan of the images PCGS does and for what it’d cost me to assemble a photographic ensemble and the room it’d take up, which I absolutely don’t have, it’s just easier for me.

kaz · March 17, 2020 4:31PM

I'm glad to hear your coin met your expectations! Welcome to the forum.

BAJJERFAN · March 17, 2020 4:45PM

@Klif50 said:
Do you have the coin in hand? Probably not since you just won it last night. One of the cardinal rules of this group is you never publicly brag about getting a killer deal on a coin before you actually have it in your possession. Perhaps the owner or seller might read what you wrote and change their mind about shipping it. It has happened many times in the past.

I don't think it' a rule but more like unwritten sage advice. If the seller doesn't find out first, some snitch here might tell them. The seller may realize that you got a great bargain, but usually it involves some sort of VAM or variety that's worth a fair amount of money and the seller had no clue as to what he really had.

50cCOMMEMGUY · March 17, 2020 5:10PM

I don’t post til I see it shipped and received at a hub

sparky64 · March 17, 2020 6:57PM

@50cCOMMEMGUY said:
When it arrives I’ll get pics up. Haven’t tried to take any coin pics yet with my iPhone. It’ll be interesting.

Wut?
Coin pics are the No.1 use of phone cameras...

...for forum members.

Hi! New guy here and I feel like a thief in the night!

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