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I have a 1943s lincoln penny. It is alltered or genuine coin?

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  • I already check this coin and it is not attracted to magnet and 3.1 grms. Any comment...

  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You should join the PCGS Collectors Club: https://www.pcgs.com/join

    Then send it in for a professional opinion.

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  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Welcome to the forum! :)

    Good photo but it is not much lager than a postage stamp and can't be enlarged.
    Any chance of getting a larger photo and a photo of the reverse?

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Chad_collection1973....Welcome aboard.... Take the advice of @MFeld above, he is an extremely experienced numismatist and can offer further advice. Cheers, RickO

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,941 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Whatever you do, do not mess with it in any way. Fingers off or touch by rim only. I hope it is the real deal. I recently had one sent to me for review and it turned out that it was a Chinese copy. However, yours does not appear to be a fake from what I can see. Hope is eternal.

    bob :)

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very difficult to say for sure but the mintmark doesn't look quite right, clear in focus photos that are cropped to remove the background are needed to make any possible initial determination.

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  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 8, 2020 4:20PM

    @MFeld said:

    @ms70 said:
    You should join the PCGS Collectors Club: https://www.pcgs.com/join

    Then send it in for a professional opinion.

    There are other, far less costly steps that can be taken before that. Posting good pictures of both sides of the coin here and showing the coin to an expert are two such steps.

    I think ms70 is just being,.....well....ms70. No harm no foul.😁

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,938 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hello!

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,938 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 8, 2020 8:28PM


    better?

  • 1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,427 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm going to say not real. @CaptHenway may be able to advise you on it.

    "May the silver waves that bear you heavenward be filled with love’s whisperings"

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,911 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @emeraldATV said:

    better?

    Better would be good pictures of both sides, out of the album. Unfortunately, you’re probably not able to do that 😉

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 9, 2020 6:30AM

    @Chad_collection1973 said:
    I already check this coin and it is not attracted to magnet and 3.1 grms. Any comment...

    There are a number of counterfeits coming out of China. You can buy them for around $1-2. Where did your coin come from? If it’s been in your family for a while, that’s a good sign. If you recently purchased it from a flea market or Craigslist, then I wouldn’t have much hope

    Member of the ANA since 1982
  • @Oldhoopster said:

    @Chad_collection1973 said:
    I already check this coin and it is not attracted to magnet and 3.1 grms. Any comment...

    There are a number of counterfeits coming out of China. You can buy them for around $1-2. Where did your coin come from? If it’s been in your family for a while, that’s a good sign. If you recently purchased it from a flea market of Craigslist, then I wouldn’t have much hope

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,318 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you're unable to post larger pictures of both sides, you'll need someone that can render a credible opinion to look at it in person and advise. Take it to a major show by you or reputable dealer. If you post your approximate location, you'll get specific recommendations.



  • Sorry for not replying to your comment. I try to make a better picture but its all I got. Tommorow I try to make a picture better than that focus on the date. Thanks guys for your nice and good suggestion and may the God bless us all. Thanks...

  • isaiah58isaiah58 Posts: 385 ✭✭✭

    Using the 1943 P and 1943 D in your folder, what differences about the date can you notice? Using other S minted cents, compare mint marks. Focus on the gap around the 4, the placement of the 4 and S, and the design of both.

    Open alibaba.com and search for your coin. Look over the images there of the replicas.

    As already advised, ask a coin dealer to help you identify the coin.

  • @Chad_collection1973 said:

    @Oldhoopster said:

    @Chad_collection1973 said:
    I already check this coin and it is not attracted to magnet and 3.1 grms. Any comment...

    There are a number of counterfeits coming out of China. You can buy them for around $1-2. Where did your coin come from? If it’s been in your family for a while, that’s a good sign. If you recently purchased it from a flea market of Craigslist, then I wouldn’t have much hope

    Sir it is came from my friend that need a answer if it is a fake or a true copper penny. Thanks...

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,911 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Chad_collection1973 said:


    Sorry for not replying to your comment. I try to make a better picture but its all I got. Tommorow I try to make a picture better than that focus on the date. Thanks guys for your nice and good suggestion and may the God bless us all. Thanks...

    While I can't be certain and larger, sharper pictures might help, based on those. I do not think the coin is genuine.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,752 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @Chad_collection1973 said:

    Sorry for not replying to your comment. I try to make a better picture but its all I got. Tommorow I try to make a picture better than that focus on the date. Thanks guys for your nice and good suggestion and may the God bless us all. Thanks...

    While I can't be certain and larger, sharper pictures might help, based on those. I do not think the coin is genuine.

    I agree. The date and mintmark look off.

    OP - take photos of the coin WITHOUT the holder. Take about 1000 shots until you get a good clear close-up.

  • OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Chad_collection1973 said:

    @Chad_collection1973 said:

    @Oldhoopster said:

    @Chad_collection1973 said:
    I already check this coin and it is not attracted to magnet and 3.1 grms. Any comment...

    There are a number of counterfeits coming out of China. You can buy them for around $1-2. Where did your coin come from? If it’s been in your family for a while, that’s a good sign. If you recently purchased it from a flea market of Craigslist, then I wouldn’t have much hope

    Sir it is came from my friend that need a answer if it is a fake or a true copper penny. Thanks...

    Please ask your friend the same question. Some of these Chinese fakes can be deceiving and the pics are not clear enough to offer an opinion. It is very unlikely that your friend has an authentic copper 43S Cent, especially if it was acquired recently by someone who is not an experienced collector. If the coin does have some provenance, then the next thing is to send it for authentication. But that is going to cost $50+. What many members are telling you is that sending it for authentication is very likely to be wasted money unless you have a lot of confidence that you have something. It’s like going to a casino and putting $50 on Black 13, except your odds are closer to Lotto odds than roulette odds

    Member of the ANA since 1982
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 9, 2020 10:17AM

    You can buy this copper fake on Alibaba for $1.20 each (minimum order 10 pieces).

    Improve your odds of one grading as genuine by submitting all ten at once. :p
    Lance.


  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,769 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1Mike1 said:
    I'm going to say not real. @CaptHenway may be able to advise you on it.

    Can't say anything from these pictures.

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  • don't listen to AUandAG, always have to get your fingers wet on genuine rarities, feel is integral facet of authentication. after palming a bit, see if digits smell coppery. passing that, drop it on a desktop/stone countertop to try the ring test. you may have to throw it with a little force to pass this. successful there, place on edge on hard surface and strike with blows from hammer until slight perceptible bend (positive if concave to obverse). all of these ok then place in vise or drill press and bore ever increasing diameter holes until only the rim remains. if it fits on your pinky...bingo... you win, take your husband out on the town bruce...the goo from igwt is gone

  • 3stars3stars Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It’s an overstruck fantasy date coin😉

    Previous transactions: Wondercoin, goldman86, dmarks, Type2
  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe it's a fake. The C in Cent looks off on the reverse.

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,743 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Take it to a knowledgeable and reputable coin dealer. Advice from internet forums, particularly ones that have tired of "look at this rare (non)error coin" posts, is not always reliable and should not be used for decision making.
    I'd say that since not every post here is saying 100% fake, maybe you have something.
    Please keep us informed

    Collector, occasional seller

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,911 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ChrisH821 said:
    Take it to a knowledgeable and reputable coin dealer. Advice from internet forums, particularly ones that have tired of "look at this rare (non)error coin" posts, is not always reliable and should not be used for decision making.
    I'd say that since not every post here is saying 100% fake, maybe you have something.
    Please keep us informed

    I don't think a unanimous response of "100% fake" is required to eliminate the realistic possibility of "maybe_you have something."

    I've received pictures of three other, equally (un)-convincing examples, just in the past two days. While it can't hurt to show the coin to an expert, I see no good reason to believe the coin might be genuine.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,752 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @ChrisH821 said:
    Take it to a knowledgeable and reputable coin dealer. Advice from internet forums, particularly ones that have tired of "look at this rare (non)error coin" posts, is not always reliable and should not be used for decision making.
    I'd say that since not every post here is saying 100% fake, maybe you have something.
    Please keep us informed

    I don't think a unanimous response of "100% fake" is required to eliminate the realistic possibility of "maybe_you have something."

    I've received pictures of three other, equally (un)-convincing examples, just in the past two days. While it can't hurt to show the coin to an expert, I see no good reason to believe the coin might be genuine.

    While I agree with you, I also agree with @ChrisH821. Especially given the less than helpful joke responses from some forum members, it is really hard for a newbie to get any kind of reasonable consensus here.

  • Joe_360Joe_360 Posts: 1,782 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why do you care?

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