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GTG - 1821 Capped Bust Half - GRADE POSTED

CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited March 4, 2020 11:02AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Grade posted toward bottom of thread.

I've owned this coin for a couple of years, and recently had it imaged by Mark Goodman. Would appreciate an attribution as I can't find my Overton book.

Grade guesses and comments welcome. Thanks for looking.


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    TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,909 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it very much and guess AU-58. Sorry I don't have any idea of O#

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    NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,043 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU53 nice original look

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,986 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55.

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    TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,965 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    ms70ms70 Posts: 13,958 ✭✭✭✭✭

    45

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    android01android01 Posts: 306 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55

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    ironmanl63ironmanl63 Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I actually have no idea. There appears to be enough luster to be AU. I would guess high xf as far as ware. Over all attractive and original.

    Au 53

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    StrikeguyStrikeguy Posts: 47 ✭✭

    I would say Overton 103 for sure, great looking busty

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    drddmdrddm Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 3, 2020 7:40PM

    Nice images. Looks 55 to me.

    It’s a O.103, R2
    You can tell by the lack of serifs on the E’s and lower right side of the A’s on the reverse. It also happens to be the same reverse die used on the rare 1820 O.107

    Nice coin!

    Dave

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    privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55

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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Strikeguy , @drddm

    Thanks for the attribution, gentlemen!

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    isaiah58isaiah58 Posts: 385 ✭✭✭

    The majority of the coin is 58 like, those hard rubs are isolated, will be interesting to see the grade.

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    Pnies20Pnies20 Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    53

    BHNC #248 … 140 and counting.

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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,525 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55 to me, tops.

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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55 here

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    jughead1893jughead1893 Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    53

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    superpsychmdsuperpsychmd Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭

    53

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My guess would be Au55.... And Mark did an extraordinary job on those photo's....It looks as if I could touch my screen and feel the surfaces.... 3D quality for sure. Cheers, RickO

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,890 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 4, 2020 6:44AM

    This thread is a fairly rare demonstration of a coin with great photos - not surprising, considering who shot them - and a large majority of the grade guesses being in a narrow range (AU53-55). I'm in the AU55 camp.

    Regardless of what the assigned grade turns out to be, if you graded the coin other than 53 or 55, you're out of line. ;)

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The grade guesses came in almost exactly as I expected, with 55 and 53 being the most popular opinions. I think the luster and eye appeal of the piece in hand make it a clear 55 (even if it's a tweener for wear), and am glad that the Bust half heavyweights on the forum agree. Thanks again to all who participated!

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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 24,474 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The look of the coin is timeless... The grade in plastic is just not as significant as the look.

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,937 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool coin. I would have said AU53, but I have absolutely no issue with AU55. It seems AU53 is sometimes thrown at coins with an issue item two and that certainty isn’t the case here.

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it as a 55 also. It's really hard to call how graders treat so many Bust Halves! Many grades have me scratching my head!

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 9,709 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 4, 2020 12:13PM

    I was thinking choice XF, but am a grade low on it.

    Edited to add: reason for that was how the surface luster is totally worn away on much of the coin. Minimal wear and original surfaces and toning though makes it a "choice AU" I guess.

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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 24,474 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There is simply nothing to guess about here... It is one terrific coin that has the look that plastic simply is unable to capture. The grade was already posted before I had an opportunity to express my thoughts. This is a poster coin for what the objective should be for the look... The surfaces and what really matters. Whether coin is a 55 or whatever is largely irrelevant because of the look. It is a very high end AU coin that traded locations between banks back in the day and every collector should take a moment to appreciate this coin for what it is instead of what others pretend to be.

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 33,054 ✭✭✭✭✭

    cool coin cool grade as well

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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was in the 55 camp ...

    Love that 'missing serif' reverse. Too bad it's not the O.107!

    Nice CBH!

    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 10,324 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55 seems right.

    Nice Bust Half!

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 24,474 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The TR quote sounds more as if it was from 1912 when his hat was in the ring...

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    jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,097 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would love to build a set of bust halves with that same look!

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