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Jefferson question?

joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,573 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited March 1, 2020 1:18PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Hi guy's, On this 1964 Jefferson proof, what is this that appears to be some sort of "lamination"? Mostly on the obverse but one tic on the reverse as well. Thanks for any info.




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  • TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,628 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lamination is what you’re thinking of. In this case, I’d say delamination.

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yep ... nice delamination.

  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,573 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I spelled it wrong! Lol. What is the difference between lamination than delamination? :*

    "Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!

    --- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.
  • 56morgan56morgan Posts: 45 ✭✭✭

    Lamination think of new plywood and glu-lam beams. Delamination picture plywood left in the rain for ten years,

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 1, 2020 7:48PM

    Your coin has some debris on it. Usually, this is found on Proofs when the plastic gets old and "bonds" to the surface. Comes right off with Goo Gone whether plastic or glue. Acetone will melt the plastic and will often require a further "clean-up."

    The clue to the easy ID is the COLOR.

  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,573 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks, I'll try. ;)

    "Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!

    --- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.
  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    DON'T RUB THE COIN! Drop the Goo on and let it sit. Then put more on a Q-Tip and roll it over the area. You are going to need to remove the Goo when you are finished. Acetone works.

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a TDR FS-801? ;)

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:
    Your coin has some debris on it. Usually, this is found on Proofs when the plastic gets old and "bonds" to the surface. Comes right off with Goo Gone whether plastic or glue. Acetone will melt the plastic and will often require a further "clean-up."

    The clue to the easy ID is the COLOR.

    Yep.
    Likely the proof set got heated and the mint cello packaging partially stuck to the coin.
    I have seen this many times.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2, 2020 7:03AM

    Yep...looks like residue that can be removed with acetone or Goo Gone...Let us know how it goes... And the correct term for what you thought it was is 'delamination', 'lamination' is when two or more products are sealed together through heat, pressure or adhesives. Delamination is when they come apart. Cheers, RickO

  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,573 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    Yep...looks like residue that can be removed with acetone or Goo Gone...Let us know how it goes... And the correct term for what you thought it was is 'delamination', 'lamination' is when two or more products are sealed together through heat, pressure or adhesives. Delamination is when they come apart. Cheers, RickO

    You guy's are talking about the tic I called on the reverse, correct? Not what's on the obverse.

    "Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!

    --- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.
  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Conserve the coin and see what happens to the ""tic."

  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,573 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2, 2020 8:22PM

    @ifthevamzarockin said:
    Looks like a TDR FS-801? ;)

    Are you kidding or serious? :) Oh, I see where you're thinking.
    Any difference? I acetoned it!

    "Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!

    --- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2, 2020 1:42PM

    the term "lamination" is accepted in Numismatics for this condition but to my way of thinking it is technically wrong.

    in order for lamination(actually delamination) to take place something needs to be a laminated, that is to say constructed of layers which are adhered to each other to form a structure. think of the plywood example given by 56morgan. if that starts to come apart then it delaminates.

    a coin planchet isn't constructed of several layers of metal adhered to each other, a laminate, therefor it can't delaminate. it is probably a term of convenience that desrcibes what it looks like and the Hobby has accepted it.

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