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Auction woes and selling for a total loss.

Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco ✭✭✭✭✭
edited February 15, 2020 12:41PM in U.S. Coin Forum

I decided to test the waters with a $.99 auction, against my better judgment. I listed an UNC 1939 double die obverse nickel, very hard to locate, and the auction ended today for $5.50. It was like a punch in the...gut! I would estimate the value between $50-$200.
The final sale price was about 10 times less than what I paid. And after shipping and fees I should clear about .97¢
:s
I see why there are so few .99¢ auctions anymore.

Granted this variety is somewhat obscure, but I am frankly stunned at the lack of interest for a variety with about 5-7 known examples.

Any one have some cheese to pair with my whine? Extra sharp or blue please.



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    Yup. Big Mistake.

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    Tough weekend for auctions.. Valentine’s Day, Monday Holiday and School Vacation starts this week.

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    OuthaulOuthaul ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 15, 2020 7:07PM

    You are correct that it is an obscure and niche' variety, so don't be disappointed when it doesn't do well.

    Typically, 99¢ auctions are more popular coins and more well-known varieties. I would have ended the auction as "Item no longer available" if you had any doubts.

    As far as your snack goes, a nice limburger and a bottle of moscatel. Or perhaps Manischewitz with an insulin chaser?

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    ZoinsZoins ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 15, 2020 1:05PM

    @Aspie_Rocco said:
    Auction woes and selling for a total loss.

    I decided to test the waters with a $.99 auction, against my better judgment. I listed an UNC 1939 double die obverse nickel, very hard to locate, and the auction ended today for $5.50. It was like a punch in the...gut! I would estimate the value between $50-$200.
    The final sale price was about 10 times less than what I paid. And after shipping and fees I should clear about .97¢
    :s
    I see why there are so few .99¢ auctions anymore.

    Granted this variety is somewhat obscure, but I am frankly stunned at the lack of interest for a variety with about 5-7 known examples.

    Any one have some cheese to pair with my whine? Extra sharp or blue please.



    I might be missing something, but it looks like you're selling this for $195? It looks like the same photo with the same notch and reflections on the 2x2.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/1939-DDO-Doubled-Die-Obverse-Jefferson-Nickel-Uncirculated-BU-Variety-RARE/184161590363

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    did you post your auction on the bst?i would have bid.

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    @Zoins that’s interesting

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    @Justacommeman said:
    @Zoins that’s interesting

    m

    Agree. Unless he had more than one.

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    So did you cancel the auction and relist as a buy it now ???

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    JustacommemanJustacommeman ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 15, 2020 2:16PM

    @OPA said:

    @Justacommeman said:
    @Zoins that’s interesting

    m

    Agree. Unless he had more than one.

    Yes I thought of that but then he is “flooding the market” as apparently there are only around 5-7 examples extant. Also listing the same variety coin for $195 after one just “sold”for $5 (by the same seller) doesn’t seem too savvy to me. Maybe I’m missing the obvious. I’ve haven't bought on eBay for 15 years so I am out of the loop

    Probably another explanation we aren’t thinking of

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    I am going to guess this is another auction but used the same picture and has a few of these to sell. This time he is selling the way he should of done on the 1st one. Just a guess though.

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    ElectricityElectricity ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 15, 2020 2:55PM

    Perhaps buyer requested to cancel

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    It could be as simple as the coin was listed as a buy-it-now and the OP forgot to end the listing when he set up the auction.

    As others have stated, no reserve auctions aren’t the best for more esoteric items. Sometimes buy-it-now with best offer is the ideal option.

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    @Gluggo said:
    I am going to guess this is another auction but used the same picture and has a few of these to sell. This time he is selling the way he should of done on the 1st one. Just a guess though.

    I am going to guess the opposite, that he canned the auction after it closed and relisted.

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    or maybe got lucky and the winner cancelled

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    Looking at the time stamps, looks like the cheap auction closed and the same coin delisted at the higher BIN afterward. IF the seller simply canceled the auction and then listed it at the BIN that's shady and certainly shouldn't have been brought to everyone's attention with this thread lamenting how he got "auction woes" and selling at a total loss.

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    I also smell fish - but wish I wasn't.

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    @keets said:
    there is really way to much whinning/moaning/bitching/complaining about eBay at this forum

    There needs to be more attention paid to punctuation and capitalization on this forum.

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    There are so many mistakes made here sorry to say op lol

    Something super rare apparently that’s raw is about the worst combination to list as a 99c start auction.

    And even worse mistake would be if you canceled it after and listed BIN but that’s TBD of course.

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    @abcde12345 said:

    @keets said:
    there is really way to much whinning/moaning/bitching/complaining about eBay at this forum

    There needs to be more attention paid to punctuation and capitalization on this forum.

    Serious question - why?

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    GluggoGluggo ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 15, 2020 6:00PM

    Does not really matter the bid winner only has a feedback of (9). Sort of a Immaterial, Does not really matter, Insignificant, A NO BODY! :open_mouth: I doubt z***3 will even notice he won! Probably forget ALL ABOUT IT after 1 month goes by.

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    Mongo smell sumthun funny...

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    @PhilLynott said:

    @abcde12345 said:

    @keets said:
    there is really way to much whinning/moaning/bitching/complaining about eBay at this forum

    There needs to be more attention paid to punctuation and capitalization on this forum.

    Serious question - why?

    Because otherwise, "let's eat, Grandma" becomes "let's eat grandma".

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    @Cameonut said:
    I also smell fish - but wish I wasn't.

    Move inland

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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 15, 2020 6:49PM

    Yes that can be par for the course starting a bay listing at 99c especially if raw.

    A bin / make offer or auction starting at say 70 pct of its MV then if no bidders reduce say to 65 pct MV if does not sell. Otherwise just throw back in eBay store at what you will take.

    Due to current market conditions you need to protect yourself. The reality of the market place can throw water on / soak the best of us. Tuition can be cruel.

    It’s easier to buy coins than sell them.

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    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Cameonut said:
    I also smell fish - but wish I wasn't.

    Move inland

    I am inland. Pinehurst NC - about 100 miles inland.
    Unfortunately, still smells fishy to me. Or it is really strong fish.

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    @jmlanzaf
    You are on a roll tonight. I'm enjoying a nice merlot - what about you?

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    Nah, got a beer!

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    @Cameonut said:
    @jmlanzaf
    You are on a roll tonight. I'm enjoying a nice merlot - what about you?

    I love Merlot. Sadly, I don't have any in the house. I do have a nice Pinot Noir I could open

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    @jmlanzaf said:

    I do have a nice Pinot Noir I could open

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    @jmlanzaf said:

    @keets said:
    there is really way too much whining/moaning/bitching/complaining about eBay at this forum.

    We need something to do while we're waiting for someone to post pocket change.

    Haven't been following the World & Ancient Coins Forum, I see. ;)

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    I need giant pictures with little arrows that show me how and why the coin isn't pocket change.

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    @Electricity said:
    Perhaps buyer requested to cancel

    Or perhaps the seller insisted to cancel.

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    WalkerfanWalkerfan ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 15, 2020 7:39PM

    @bearcave said:
    Nah, got a beer!

    FWIW....I'm enjoying a wonderful stout beer!

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    @MasonG said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @keets said:
    there is really way too much whining/moaning/bitching/complaining about eBay at this forum.

    We need something to do while we're waiting for someone to post pocket change.

    Haven't been following the World & Ancient Coins Forum, I see. ;)

    LOL.

    If that individual had to pay 5 cents for opinions, he'd be going broke.

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    @Electricity said:
    Perhaps buyer requested to cancel

    Sure, he suddenly realized he didn't have the $6 to spend on the $200 coin.

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    Minor varieties have a very thin market. It may take years to find a buyer at the $50 level. But they are out there. Patience should pay off.

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    There is the 180 degrees out to this discussion, both in the Z axis and Y axis

    1) I listed something worth $20 for .99 start and it went to $700. Turns out I did not know what I had.

    2) I listed something worth $20 for a Buy It Now of $25 and it sold in 10 minutes. What did I miss?
    (Follow-up) I was actually a referberatory kerzeren moduliforitory deaswort. They are worth about $2300.

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    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Electricity said:
    Perhaps buyer requested to cancel

    Sure, he suddenly realized he didn't have the $6 to spend on the $200 coin.

    I was trying to give the OP a way out, quite obvious what had happened.

    Zoins smelled blood and went in for the kill

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