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My proof Trade Dollar

ajaanajaan Posts: 17,634 ✭✭✭✭✭

At least that's what the label says.


I wonder if it isn't a proof they'll give me 'full retail' for it?


DPOTD-3
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CU #3245 B.N.A. #428


Don

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  • MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not unless it was a branch mint proof from San Francisco!

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 15,024 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OriginalDan said:
    Not unless it was a branch mint proof from San Francisco!

    Why not a “rather well” 😉 circulated business strike, with no mintmark remaining?

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Realone said:
    Please explain how one can determine if this Trade Dollar is an 1878-P?

    There is no mint mark. Or, if they were knowledgeable, they could count the number of edge reeds. Just a WAG. ;);)

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sad.

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinkat said:
    Sad.

    Why? I'll bet someone would pay over $100 for that coin.

  • TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,809 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks over graded, PO1 at best/worst however you look at it. Also bet its a 78-S

    Trade $'s
  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's different. I like it.

  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,634 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Has anyone heard of ACCGS or the Beverly Hills Coin Club?


    DPOTD-3
    'Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery'

    CU #3245 B.N.A. #428


    Don
  • santinidollarsantinidollar Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Beverly Hills Coin Club is legitimate. If I remember correctly, Buddy Ebsen of The Beverly Hillbillies and Barnaby Jones was one of the founders. He was quite the collector.

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why?

    Take a closer look at the information contained on the slab... There is an appraised value printed on the slab label of $1500. So $100 is not even 10% of the so-called appraised value.

    So what's several hundred dollars among friends?

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Crypto said:
    Over graded

    Gradeflation.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinkat said:
    Why?

    Take a closer look at the information contained on the slab... There is an appraised value printed on the slab label of $1500. So $100 is not even 10% of the so-called appraised value.

    So what's several hundred dollars among friends?

    The $1,500 appraised value is also dated 2018 so pretty recent.

  • @Realone said:
    Now here is an 1878 PR

    To be fair, they did say "Circulated Proof"

    Is yours circulated, sir?

    Let's compare apples to apples! >:)

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 15,024 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’d still like opinions as to how realistically, the coin could be attributed as a Proof, rather than a business strike?

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • Alltheabove76Alltheabove76 Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    I’d still like opinions as to how realistically, the coin could be attributed as a Proof, rather than a business strike?

    Total BS. Absolutely impossible to discern if it is an 1878 or 1878-S with the remaining details.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well...I cannot see how that coin can be called a proof.... I can see the year... and that it is a Trade Dollar... but that is where it ends....Cheers, RickO

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    I’d still like opinions as to how realistically, the coin could be attributed as a Proof, rather than a business strike?

    A fly-by-night grading service slabbed it as a Proof because no one can prove it is not one. I'll bet some very corroded coins get slabbed because no one can prove they are not genuine.

  • MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    I’d still like opinions as to how realistically, the coin could be attributed as a Proof, rather than a business strike?

    Theoretically you could use the rims, or a reed count. I don’t see any rim left on this coin though, and I haven’t seen a study of reed counts for BS vs PR so even that is out.

  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,634 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @santinidollar said:
    The Beverly Hills Coin Club is legitimate. If I remember correctly, Buddy Ebsen of The Beverly Hillbillies and Barnaby Jones was one of the founders. He was quite the collector.

    I went to their website and it seems it hasn't been updated since Oct. 2018

    www.accgs.org is no longer.


    DPOTD-3
    'Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery'

    CU #3245 B.N.A. #428


    Don
  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,007 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Highly doubt it. Has anyone every seen a 19th century proof coin get to that extreme wear level before?

  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,007 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Never mind I googled and found a proof 10 Gobrecht dollar.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 15,024 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinJP said:
    Never mind I googled and found a proof 10 Gobrecht dollar.

    That’s still a far cry, grade-wise, from the Trade Dollar.😉

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 15,024 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OriginalDan said:

    @MFeld said:
    I’d still like opinions as to how realistically, the coin could be attributed as a Proof, rather than a business strike?

    Theoretically you could use the rims, or a reed count. I don’t see any rim left on this coin though, and I haven’t seen a study of reed counts for BS vs PR so even that is out.

    I’m slightly relieved, as I thought perhaps I was somehow missing something. 😬

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,007 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @coinJP said:
    Never mind I googled and found a proof 10 Gobrecht dollar.

    That’s still a far cry, grade-wise, from the Trade Dollar.😉

    Only by 8 points Mark lol

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