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1861 3c Proof (or cleaned) or business strike?

braddickbraddick Posts: 25,106 ✭✭✭✭✭
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This one has me a bit perplexed. The photos are terrible, yet not so bad as to possibly not determine if this is a proof or not.
Your opinion?



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    WinLoseWinWinLoseWin Posts: 1,825 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Are any Proof 1861 3c known with the clash marks that this one shows on the reverse?

    The starting assumption is not a proof. Looks potentially interesting at first but the rims look weaker than proofs on CoinFacts. Probably there are other diagnostics too.

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    braddickbraddick Posts: 25,106 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's kind of like I'd rather own a business strike in GEM rather than a proof in low grade.

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    ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,916 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not the best photos but my dumb guess would be a cleaned business strike.

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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,921 ✭✭✭✭✭

    cleaned and retoned MS

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,585 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks like a business strike to me.

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    braddickbraddick Posts: 25,106 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's for sale at about $150. if anyone is interested. I think I'm going to pass (on eBay).

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    KliaoKliao Posts: 5,779 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @braddick said:
    It's for sale at about $150. if anyone is interested. I think I'm going to pass (on eBay).

    How is it described in the listing?

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Business Strike.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a very well preserved business strike... rims just do not have the proof quality IMO...Cheers, RickO

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,834 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks polished.

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,331 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm thinking business strike too. I suck at grading this issue, so I'll leave it to others...

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    MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,192 ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 12, 2020 5:17PM

    Clash....weak stars....rounded rims....

    Looks like a business strike to me, but I'm hardly a 3 cent silver specialist.

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