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1969-S new ddo variety? i really dont think its machine doubling

ttumaiittumaii Posts: 3
edited February 5, 2020 2:41AM in U.S. Coin Forum




1969-S new ddo variety? i really dont think its machine doubling

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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭
    no

    Not the FS-101.

  • Tiggs2012Tiggs2012 Posts: 167 ✭✭✭
    no

    Bigger question, why have there been like 5 different new registered users all claiming they falsely have a 1969-s ddo? Even trying to sell it for 5k or taking offers for their worthless penny?

  • bigtonydallasbigtonydallas Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭
    no

    Looks like damage on the date.

    Big Tony from Texas! Cherrypicking fool!!!!!!
  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Welcome to machine doubling.

  • yes

    its not damge nor do i think its machine doubling... i think its a less intense ddo that we are all so use to seeing

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,435 ✭✭✭✭✭
    no

    @ttumaii said:
    its not damge nor do i think its machine doubling... i think its a less intense ddo that we are all so use to seeing

    Then just send it to PCGS to be authenticated. Case closed :)

  • matt_dacmatt_dac Posts: 961 ✭✭✭✭✭
    no

    Ok to spend

  • OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭
    no

    These aren't the best pics, but it definitely looks like there the 196 took a hit. There could possibly be some die deterioration doubling, but once again, not enough detail in the pics

    Does the mm show the doubling too? (It looks like it might) You have the coin in hand, so take a look and be objective. If it does, it's either mechanical doubling or DDD.I

    Finally, if you don't agree, don't get argumentative. I'm sure there is some probability that all of the experienced numismatists that responded are wrong. Send it to be authenticated, and then post an "I told you so"

    Member of the ANA since 1982
  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭✭✭
    no

    This is a normal cent. Please do not waste your money on a submission.

    Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
    "Coin collecting for outcasts..."

  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 5,051 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Your photos are better than average, but not good enough to be conclusive either way.
    At least you are working with an AU or MS coin and not something scraped off the parking lot.

  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
    no

    Technical term:

    Spare change

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
    no

    just a thought:

    How did 4 people vote yes?

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,621 ✭✭✭✭✭
    no

    @ttumaii said:
    its not damge nor do i think its machine doubling... i think its a less intense ddo that we are all so use to seeing

    You would be quite wrong.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,621 ✭✭✭✭✭
    no

    @Treashunt said:
    just a thought:

    How did 4 people vote yes?

    It's not 4 people. It's 4%. 1 person voted yes - the OP.

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,547 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The comment about the mintmark being doubled is well placed. In 1969 the mintmark was applied by hand AFTER the die was produced, and as such, it should not show any doubling.

    We are not trying to demean you, but attempting to educate you concerning a complicated and tough to pick up part of the Hobby.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Might be the pics...

    But all that I see is moved metal. The numbers of the date were smashed post minting.

    More moved metal around the perimeter the L, O, D...and on other letters.... possible roller/crimper damage.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    no

    @ttumaii ....Welcome aboard.... I agree with the others, not a DDO....Cheers, RickO

  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    From photo provided it does not look like a doubled die. I can see the '96' has been somewhat flattened from damage.

    If the mintmark has any doubling similar to what the date may have... then almost surely not a doubled die.

    ----- kj
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,246 ✭✭✭✭✭
    no

    no ddo. welcome to the club also

  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,547 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's the real WINNER.

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  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,643 ✭✭✭✭✭
    no

    Looks like die deteriation.

    Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value. Zero. Voltaire. Ebay coinbowlllc

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,749 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ttumaii said:
    its not damge nor do i think its machine doubling... i think its a less intense ddo that we are all so use to seeing

    Let me explain something about die manufacturing in 1969. The design, including the date, was put into the die by a steel hub that was not properly aligned between impressions. This caused the doubling to the date and the lettering.

    After a die was hubbed, if it was then selected to go to one of the branch mints, a mint mark was applied to the die with a hand-held letter punch and a mallet. Doubling from the hubbing process would not cause doubling on the mint mark. Doubling on both the date AND the mint mark proves that it is machine doubling.

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • yes

    i really appreciate everybodys input and opinion... the last comment was very helpful and ill try to takw better pictures but maybe machine doubling... thanks everybody!

  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
    no

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Treashunt said:
    just a thought:

    How did 4 people vote yes?

    It's not 4 people. It's 4%. 1 person voted yes - the OP.

    oops!
    Thanks

    Frank

    BHNC #203

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