1972 Topps wax pack

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I can crack this with the crude implements I have on hand, I’ll be ripping this today.

Nikklos
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  • PaulMaul
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    Looks like it’s already been ripped for you! 😁

  • Nikklos
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    Lol true. I’m not a stickler for pack aesthetics.

    Nikklos
  • grote15
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    Nice! Let's see a gem mint Fisk or Mays!



    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • Nikklos
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    Wax card - lightly stained.

    Nikklos
  • grote15
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    Nicely centered!



    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • Nikklos
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    Tim - maybe worth a sub if I can clean the wax. Always tough tho.

    Nikklos
  • grote15
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    @Nikklos said:
    Tim - maybe worth a sub if I can clean the wax. Always tough tho.

    Use a nylon stocking. Should wipe right off.



    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • Nikklos
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    Gum card - beyond repair.

    Nikklos
  • grote15
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    A nylon wont fix that one, Chris, LOL..



    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • Nikklos
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    Nikklos
  • UFFDAH
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    That Leader card is a beauty!!

  • Nikklos
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    Nikklos
  • grote15
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    Evil centering gods at work...



    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • mikelowell25
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    @grote15 said:
    A nylon wont fix that one, Chris.

    What Tim said. Even granny panties won't do the trick on that one😲

  • Nikklos
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    I do like the killebrew card tho. Funny but I don’t remember ever coming across it in all my years.

    Nikklos
  • Nikklos
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    I would need a sand blaster for Perez lol

    Nikklos
  • Nikklos
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    Nikklos
  • grote15
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    Need to straighten out like that league leaders card!



    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • Nikklos
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    Well the LL was the back wax card so I’m hoping as I work there. 5 cards left.

    Nikklos
  • Nikklos
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    Oh jeez getting worse

    Nikklos
  • PaulMaul
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    This is great for understanding pack collation even if the cards aren’t gradeable!

  • Nikklos
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    Happy to be of service!

    Nikklos
  • PaulMaul
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    edited December 29, 2019 7:09PM
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    Illustrating the knight’s move sequence from the first group of cards....

  • Nikklos
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  • Nikklos
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    A little better. 2 more to go

    Nikklos
  • PaulMaul
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    edited December 29, 2019 7:05PM
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  • Nikklos
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  • Nikklos
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    Nikklos
  • Nikklos
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    Boy that was a rough pack

    Nikklos
  • PaulMaul
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    Thanks again Chris! Lots of fun and a great opportunity to learn!

  • ahopkins
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    That was fun, Chris. Thank you for sharing.

    Andy

  • JBrules
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    Thanks for posting. Always fun to follow a rip.

  • toadstrangler
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    You got balls ripping that. Great stuff!

    COPPER is gutter !

  • BriYo79
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    @PaulMaul said:
    Thanks again Chris! Lots of fun and a great opportunity to learn!

    Please elaborate. I know some of you guys are collation savants, but can you break it down for us mere mortals?

  • PaulMaul
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    edited December 29, 2019 10:19PM
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    @BriYo79 said:

    @PaulMaul said:
    Thanks again Chris! Lots of fun and a great opportunity to learn!

    Please elaborate. I know some of you guys are collation savants, but can you break it down for us mere mortals?

    The uncut sheet has two sides. Each side has 66 cards repeated twice, to make up the 132 cards from the 1st series.

    The pack contains 10 cards, five from each side. The ordering of the cards follows a knights’ move. I was never clear on the “wrap around” process, but this pack shows it is consistent on both sides.

    @jmoran19 may have further insight.

  • toadstrangler
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    @PaulMaul said:

    @BriYo79 said:

    @PaulMaul said:
    Thanks again Chris! Lots of fun and a great opportunity to learn!

    Please elaborate. I know some of you guys are collation savants, but can you break it down for us mere mortals?

    The uncut sheet has two sides. Each side has 66 cards repeated twice, to make up the 132 cards from the 1st series.

    The pack contains 10 cards, five from each side. The ordering of the cards follows a knights’ move. I was never clear on the “wrap around” process, but this pack shows it is consistent on both sides.

    @jmoran19 may have further insight.

    Wow that's sick. No aberrations to collation?

    COPPER is gutter !

  • brad31
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    edited December 30, 2019 7:03AM
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    I understand 1-4 on that sheet. What caused it to go back for card 5? Thanks for sharing that was fun to watch. Nice league leader too bad the Killebrew was so off center.

  • toadstrangler
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    edited December 30, 2019 7:07AM
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    @brad31 said:
    I understand 1-4 on that sheet. What caused it to go back for card 5? Thanks for sharing that was fun to watch. Nice league leader too bad the Killebrew was so off center.

    The Knight jumps off the right edge and appears on the left like a classic Atari game.

    COPPER is gutter !

  • PaulMaul
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    edited December 30, 2019 7:33AM
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    @brad31 said:
    I understand 1-4 on that sheet. What caused it to go back for card 5?

    Exactly how the wraparound occurs isn’t clear, but you can see it’s consistent on both sides of the sheet. I can’t be certain which of the two Harrelsons (or the leader cards on the other side) is actually being used since the rows are repeated. It may actually be the lower one.

  • jmoran19
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    edited December 30, 2019 10:58AM
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    The “knight” move was pretty standard for sequencing although there are variations to it.

    Since the horse has left the barn I do have one change to the #5 card on each half sheet posted above. Move card #5 3 rows down as Paulmaul notes above.

    John

    Current obsession, all things Topps 1969 - 1972

  • Nikklos
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    Well the knights certainly picked the wrong path here....

    Nikklos
  • brad31
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    @Nikklos said:
    Well the knights certainly picked the wrong path here....

    True - very close to a Fisk Rookie!

  • JoeBanzai
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    @brad31 said:
    I understand 1-4 on that sheet. What caused it to go back for card 5? Thanks for sharing that was fun to watch. Nice league leader too bad the Killebrew was so off center.

    For some reason the "In Action" cards have a lot of centering problems.

    2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
  • balco758
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    Thanks for sharing the rip. Regardless of the OC, love seeing the fresh gloss on the cards. Those cars will always appreciate you letting them see the light of day!

  • 70ToppsFanatic
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    You see the same pattern on the early 1970s cellos. The collation was designed to move up one row towards the edge of the sheet and over two cards. When it reached either of the last two cards in the sheet it apparently moved down one row and then went back 9 cards toward the center, i.e. if the collator ended at the card one before the edge of the row it would return to the first card from the center of the sheet one row down and if it ended at the card at the edge of the row then it would return to the second card from the center of the sheet one row down.

    The pattern for a “right half” sheet should have been something like this



    Dave
  • ahopkins
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    @70ToppsFanatic said:
    You see the same pattern on the early 1970s cellos. The collation was designed to move up one row towards the edge of the sheet and over two cards. When it reached either of the last two cards in the sheet it apparently moved down one row and then went back 9 cards toward the center, i.e. if the collator ended at the card one before the edge of the row it would return to the first card from the center of the sheet one row down and if it ended at the card at the edge of the row then it would return to the second card from the center of the sheet one row down.

    The pattern for a “right half” sheet should have been something like this

    Whoa! Love it, Dave. Good stuff.

    Andy

  • detroitfan2
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    @PaulMaul said:

    @BriYo79 said:

    @PaulMaul said:
    Thanks again Chris! Lots of fun and a great opportunity to learn!

    Please elaborate. I know some of you guys are collation savants, but can you break it down for us mere mortals?

    The uncut sheet has two sides. Each side has 66 cards repeated twice, to make up the 132 cards from the 1st series.

    The pack contains 10 cards, five from each side. The ordering of the cards follows a knights’ move. I was never clear on the “wrap around” process, but this pack shows it is consistent on both sides.

    @jmoran19 may have further insight.

    Knights' move is probably my favorite Seger song.

  • jmoran19
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    Knights' move is probably my favorite Seger song.

    HAHAHA, mine too

    Current obsession, all things Topps 1969 - 1972