Would a Over Dipped Walker Get a Details Grade?
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I recently purchased this Walker in hopes of getting a MS66 or better grade. From the photos I saw on ebay, it looked a
solid MS66+, possibly a 67. In hand though, it doesn't have the hallmark "Swirl" that typically surrounds Liberty and not
much luster. It is however, sharper than my MS66's. Thanks in advance.
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I'm not seeing the MS66-67 as I grade it as a $20 WLH.
Looks like a nice 66.
I have MS66's , 65's and 64's to compare it to and examine all with a 4x Schneider magnifier. It has a sharper strike than any of them but not the luster. I plan on sending it in to ANACS for the heck of it. They sometimes give "Net" grades on detailed material.
Looks like a 65 to me....but those large pictures could be making me see things not nearly as obvious as in hand...Cheers, RickO
It is a coin that will have to be seen "in hand". If the luster looks washed out it will not fare well. The graders see lots and lots of mint state Walking Liberty Half Dollars and will be able to spot an overdipped coin very quickly.
Maybe it's the picture but I'd go with a 64... Although if you are sending it to ANACS it may get bumped up a point or two..
Tic marks on the sun and central body will limit the grade to 65, and that's if the luster is unimpaired. Hard to tell from the photo.
I would have to see the coin in hand to evaluate whether sb sent in. What worries me is if it’s a gem why are worried about it being overdipped? Do u think u got ripped? If the coin really a 65 or 66 they most likely would have slabbed it ages ago.
From the photo it appears to be a real blazer. Regular service your looking at about $60 (see cost sch on invoice) plus your shipx cost to them. Considering CDN bid for ms 65 $75 I probably would just put in 2x2 marked Gem BU price at $85 and put in raw coin album Cowans pages in binder I have for shows. Then defer any slabbing based on selection of 5th one for the economy bus. I don’t believe it has enough bid value to consider sending in. If you think it looks overdipped (dullish looking) so then your looking at putting in 2x2 pricing at 60 money if even that much.
If u paid more than 60 blue book on it you probably got ripped. Everybody sees riches in buying raw coins then submitting but there is a big difference in executing the play on the field in a real game vs drawing up a play in the playbook.
If coin looks dullish yes may get details grade plus the expense of submission added to your loss. Ouch.
No, I don't think I got ripped, paid AU money for it. I'm wondering what it was dipped in, silver polish? I know acetone and other solvents do not remove luster. If anything, they can improve it. A local dealer I know does bulk submissions and for about $16, will get this graded if I want. I'll post it here if I do that!
It's been my (humble) experience that for late date coinage, luster may not be the only thing....but it's the biggest thing. It's the thing that can keep virtually mark free coins at 64 instead of 66.
For those giving it less than a 66 grade, please provide your reasoning.
My guess is that the thread title is partly responsible. I don’t see a reverse image, but based on the obverse, I’d guess MS66.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Thank you.
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Better to be dipped than covered with the nasty. Congrats!
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There is a widow under the pic of the obverse.
I had missed that - thank you, as well.
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Looks 65 to me, so that probably means 66.
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Looks like a straight grade to me. 65-66.
I could see 66 these days if it has the luster to support the grade. That eagle sure looks sharp.
Looks well struck. 65-66 no problem IMHO.
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I see no issue with "dipping" or over-dipping on this coin.
However, it appears to me to have light to moderate burnishing or cleaning of some sort.
So I don't think it would grade if submitted. But still an ok coin for AU money.
While my grade guess was MS66, the luster does look “off”, even if not as if the coin has been over-dipped. So your assessment might very well be correct.
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I'm seeing the lack of luster swirl, so if they see it as overdipped, not sure if it would straight grade. I had a substantial group of raw walkers I submitted a while back but all had booming cartwheel luster; even as MS66 and cac they weren't worth that much over $125.