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lsicalsica Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭✭

Brilliant proof...
With iridescent multi color toning that changes when you move it in the light...
With some of the best colors in front of the profile (if you get enough light to show the profile, you wash out the color)...

Philately will get you nowhere....

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  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,697 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Especially a gold proof ;)

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  • lsicalsica Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭✭

    @Kliao said:
    Especially a gold proof ;)

    Copper is worse. I could add "and it's a cameo" but that would just be sadistic

    Philately will get you nowhere....
  • WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tough Tough Tough shooting proofs... just keep practicing.

    WS

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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,836 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Imagine using film.

  • lsicalsica Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭✭

    @Smudge said:
    Imagine using film.

    You are evil 😉

    Philately will get you nowhere....
  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,836 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Retired photographer, mostly film. Processing 16 rolls of 35mm film in an 8 reel tank is tough, especially color slide film. Done as a photographer. Great jobs and experiences, but it ruined a perfectly good hobby so I turned to coins as a hobby as I had always been interested in them.

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,963 ✭✭✭✭✭

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    @Smudge said:
    Retired photographer, mostly film. Processing 16 rolls of 35mm film in an 8 reel tank is tough, especially color slide film. Done as a photographer. Great jobs and experiences, but it ruined a perfectly good hobby so I turned to coins as a hobby as I had always been interested in them.

    Smudge,
    Welcome to the island of misfit professions.
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    just making light of what many people are going through.
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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,836 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Never did that, silver recovery thing.

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,963 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Large scale neg processor.
    lots of silver removed from film gathering in a recovery unit looking like sand.
    Many lunches were baught.

  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,894 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Send it to Phil at PCGS.

    The problem with colorful proofs is you need vertical lighting to bring our colors and mirrors. But with slabs, glare reflection gets in the way.

    You can screw around with axial lighting (it doesn't work with slabs). Play games by tilting the coin (and mess up focus). But bottom line is you need to shoot raw.

    TrueView is your best choice.
    Lance.

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Now I know why I'm nightmare prone.

  • lsicalsica Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭✭

    @lkeigwin said:
    You can screw around with axial lighting (it doesn't work with slabs). Play games by tilting the coin (and mess up focus). But bottom line is you need to shoot raw.

    My experience with axial lighting is that it washes out color. And tilting the coin makes stuff looked egg shaped

    I've even experimented with stretching the image of a tilted coin back to round in the computer but could never get a realistic looking result. And I've tried combining images from different lighting angles but problem is shadows fall in different places when you do that so combination is near impossible.

    TrueView is your best choice

    Ya. I wonder what their secrets are. Even their adversaries down in Sarasota don't seem to have their skills with multi iridescent colored proofs I suspect it involves incantations and spells.

    Philately will get you nowhere....
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No issues with copper or gold proofs... Yet colorfully toned silver I've at times had to walk away from a few times till finally getting the lucky shot.

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  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lsica said:
    Brilliant proof...
    With iridescent multi color toning that changes when you move it in the light...
    With some of the best colors in front of the profile (if you get enough light to show the profile, you wash out the color)...

    A quick dip in the Weimans will solve your problem. Congrats!

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Since I managed to avoid the coin photography fever (through focused efforts), I have not had to experience these frustrations... :D I almost got sucked in...at one point even purchased a table top setup...then saw I would need even more.. and said to myself "Now you are spending good money that could go towards a nice firearm." That did it... :D;) Cheers, RickO

  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,894 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lsica said:

    TrueView is your best choice

    Ya. I wonder what their secrets are.

    No secrets. TrueViews are shot with raw coins.
    Lance.

  • lsicalsica Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭✭

    @lkeigwin said:
    No secrets. TrueViews are shot with raw coins.

    Even raw proofs with iridescent color aren't easy

    Philately will get you nowhere....
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,348 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lsica said:
    Brilliant proof...
    With iridescent multi color toning that changes when you move it in the light...
    With some of the best colors in front of the profile (if you get enough light to show the profile, you wash out the color)...

    On a Seated or Barber (flat field) design...
    In a trashed slab.

  • planetsteveplanetsteve Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭✭

    Anybody try using tilt-shift lenses to correct the image of tilted coins? I’ve always been curious. These are of course expensive specialty lenses, but they can be rented too.

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,836 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @planetsteve said:
    Anybody try using tilt-shift lenses to correct the image of tilted coins? I’ve always been curious. These are of course expensive specialty lenses, but they can be rented too.

    They work well for straightening out buildings. Never used them for copy work.

  • YQQYQQ Posts: 3,343 ✭✭✭✭✭

    axial will do the trick.
    your light source and exit to camera lens must be dead on and should be adjustable
    u need to experiment

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,071 ✭✭✭✭✭

    When it’s behind plastic, yes very difficult. Raw? No problem.

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  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,952 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some just play better than others. This is through a slab. 64DMPL.

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  • JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 3,787 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I get naked

  • planetsteveplanetsteve Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭✭

    @blu62vette said:
    Some just play better than others. This is through a slab. 64DMPL.

    Axial lighting? That’s a very attractive image.

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