2019 ERP Leave the box sealed or send it in to be graded?

There’s no way I couldn’t look with #1 somewhere unless I wanted it graded but if you just wanted money I would sell now

If you take out the signed COA factor, it is a sell now for sure.

If you like to gamble the COA factor is there for you.

Sell it to me, throw me a PM with your price.

If you are after the $ then sell now and move on. The price will settle downward as time goes on.

I wonder if PCGS has found any previously opened and resealed boxes and refused to certify the COA?

If it were my coin....I would already have opened it.... never could tolerate sealed boxes. Years ago, I purchased sealed GSA boxes (reputable seller, forum member)... They were opened almost as soon as I received them... Well, one lasted a day... Cheers, RickO

@JBK said:

@lotsacoins52 said:
I'm in the same boat. I'm thinking about putting the unopened box on eBay. I've been going back and forth for weeks now.

Historically, there are lots of examples of unopened boxes going for more than most of the coins that could be inside.

How much is your time and anxiety worth?

Good point. $1500 would pay for Christmas and then some.

@Delorean said:

@coinnoob782 said:
My though on it was, i paid $70 for the coin, no matter what it grades is a huge profit, even a 67. I didn't want to cut myself short, nor play any games. I decided to get it graded, see what i 'won' and figure out how much my prize is. I would bet alot of these "sealed" boxes have all been checked. The boxes are easy to open and close with damaging them. I actually think there are alot of people buying sealed boxes, seeing whats inside and if there is no signed certs are reclosing and reselling as never opened. I dont really trust the "unopened" at this point and as more time goes on i trust it less.

My box from the Mint is taped really good on both ends, there is no way you could get away with opening it and re-sealing.

Yours might be, but many of them are not and there's no way to know what tape the fulfillment center put on the box. I wouldn't trust unopened ones at this point.

@ChrisH821 said:

@Delorean said:

@coinnoob782 said:
My though on it was, i paid $70 for the coin, no matter what it grades is a huge profit, even a 67. I didn't want to cut myself short, nor play any games. I decided to get it graded, see what i 'won' and figure out how much my prize is. I would bet alot of these "sealed" boxes have all been checked. The boxes are easy to open and close with damaging them. I actually think there are alot of people buying sealed boxes, seeing whats inside and if there is no signed certs are reclosing and reselling as never opened. I dont really trust the "unopened" at this point and as more time goes on i trust it less.

My box from the Mint is taped really good on both ends, there is no way you could get away with opening it and re-sealing.

Yours might be, but many of them are not and there's no way to know what tape the fulfillment center put on the box. I wouldn't trust unopened ones at this point.

Agreed.

A lot of the boxes I received had one generic piece of tape across a self-sealing flap. It isn't that hard to peak and reseal it. I'm fairly certain that 2 of the "sealed box" that I bought had been peaked into because the self-sealing flap wasn't so tightly stuck anymore.

@jmski52 said:

There's been too much fanfare for this coin to be a sleeper, and we've seen this movie before.

Yes!

A "sleeper" by definition slips by largely unnoticed (or unappreciated) until one day collectors "discovers" it (occasionally that happens as soon as the coin goes off sale at the mint). There is nothing about this coin that is unnoticed or is waiting to be discovered.

Why does COA #001 matter? I mean- why would it be any more important than #100 or #1000? It's not like the associated coin is the first one struck, or even that it was the first COA signed.

@jmlanzaf said:
My motto is never argue with the Market, but this time I sort of want to. LOL.

Not arguing with it, just trying to understand it. Then again, when I started collecting mint issued stuff, the coins were what everybody focused on, the other crap that came along with them was- well, crap. Who cared about the packaging and such? Nobody.

@MilesWaits said:
Hence, hyperbole and drive and demand and fun.

No denying, it's been interesting to watch.

Depends on speed at which you want them back and what you ensure them for and means of delivery. I just paid 150ish for grading and same week quick turn to make early release deadline

@jmlanzaf said:

@bigjpst said:
If the sole purpose is to make money Send it in to be graded. There is very little downside right now if it were to come back in a 69 or lower grade and potential huge upside if there is a signed COA.
I had the same discussion with myself 2 weeks ago and couldn’t stand the not knowing about the COA. Sent mine in and got a 70. No signed Cert. but I’m happy now knowing.

The downside is, possibly, timing. If the price continues to erode, you could ride the price down while waiting for the grade after spending $80 or so to get it graded. This is not, necessarily, compelling. But, we shouldn't pretend it doesn't exist.

This is true, but the down side will still be minimal compared to the potential upside. The eroding price is always a possibility. So is the the potential increase in price. You can minimize the time by paying for a faster service tier. Yes this could cost more, but could also save from an even lower price over time.
That being said, even if the price lowers gradually now that graded coins come to market, I don't see any kind of crash in price that wouldn't justify the possible 5 fold increase in price with a signed COA.

Like I said, I had the same argument with myself on whether to flip sealed or have graded and chose graded. Now that I have a 70, most likely I will see an increase in profit over the 69s or sealed boxes short term. It more than pays for the grading cost and I see that as a win. JMO