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a new David Carr production?
nice error nickel.
Looks like another nickel got in the way... accidentally, or on purpose...
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You want mayo on that sandwich?
Looks like a sandwich coin. What's on the other side?
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A great question that always should be asked for the most faked error type out there.
Let's talk some more. I agree it is a fake error. How do you think they managed to keep the rim of the original coin complete w/o being damaged in the squeeze?
Imagine if this was real just how it could have happened?
Do you have an answer to this: "How do you think they managed to keep the rim of the original coin complete w/o being damaged in the squeeze?" Anybody?
Yes.
(Never mind - based on new information..... ).
Insider, it is not a "rim", it is the edge of the plastic holder you are seeing.
Where's the vice squad when we need them?
bob
If that's not a rum then I retract my speculation.
Collector, occasional seller
Here is one I picked up recently
Deception by Photoshop.
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Just because you can create a squeeze job at home does not mean a mint press can’t also create one. The trick is figuring out which is which.
Why did PCGS slab it if it's a fake? Please post the other side of the coin/slab.
Well it does look like the rim from the picture in the slab is in fact intact. In that case I stand by my since-deleted diagnosis.
By using a carefully machined cut coin to make the impression.
the coin is real, just has 'damage'
Apparently the coin is either considered genuine by PCGS and the OP; OR the coin and the slab are fake. I don't claim to be an error expert but I still don't like the coin.
That's not what happens to a genuine error made by the mint.
When the OP quits playing games, we'll get somewhere. He is the error expert.
I guess I should have written "quiz"in the title
No need. This still has the potential to be a great discussion. All you need to do is educate us.
So far, you have posted a coin that many of us believed was a fake. Then you show that it has been certified as a genuine error.
I LOVE THAT approach! All that is needed now is to tell us that you believe the coin and the slab is genuine because if you sent it in raw, you've seen the edge and "true" rim.
I thought this would be a fun one to post because a brokerage is one of the most faked error coins out there.
The opposite side on these are so important.
This coin is a true error and is double struck, the second strike off center with mirrored brockage at the time of the second strike.
A very rare and eye appealing error on a blank planchet ( I have owned two examples) , but even rarer on an already struck coin as in this case.
Pheew! Thanks for the solution. I was getting worried there for a minute. Peace Roy
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I thought this was gonna be a Lord of the Rings thread.
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Mint squeeze job! Didn't you have one that looked pretty legit with incuse design both sides? And the general verdict was that even if it was done by the mint it could not be proven unless one of the other coins involved was found? I think it was on a cent.
That... is an amazing error! 11/10
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The Mint should throw a few more down the presser and market it up for secondary
Very interesting error....had me confused...thought it was a vise job at first...I guess others did as well. Thanks for the details... Cheers, RickO
I STILL DON'T GET IT.
Please help and explain how it happened. The obverse looks OK. A struck coin was struck a second time w/the second part off-center.
The reverse is confusing. There is a normal reverse. Then there is an off center brockage of AN OBVERSE design in the same place that the REVERSE design of the second strike should have been. That's all I'll say for now and await an explanation for us please.
First step: Nickel struck normally.
Second step:
Third step:
Etc.:
Thanks in advance!
First step: Nickel struck normally.
Second step: Second nickel struck normally
Third step: One of the normally struck nickels stays in the die set up while the other normally struck nickel landed off center bellow (or on top depending on the hammer and anvil positions which I do not know) of the first normally struck nickel
Fourth step: The normally struck nickel is then struck again making the double strike and at the same time producing the reverse mirror brockage from the other normally struck nickel.
Glad I reserved my comment untill you showed the other side lol great thread!
Here is what I think happened. EOC correct me if I am mistaken or missed a step.
1: This Nickel struck as normal
2: This nickel failed to be "removed from danger" and hangs out around the striking area
3: Second nickel struck as usual but fails to extract from the collar
4: This nickel ends up partially on top of the struck nickel that didn't extract
5: Hammer die strikes the first nickel imprinting the obverse design from the die onto the obverse of this nickel and the obverse of the stuck one into the reverse.
I think the reason it didn't squish and deform too much from a circular shape is that the strike wasn't super off center and the metal was already work hardened from being struck once.
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Thanks but so far...Poo Poo!
I'll have some reasons/questions why this sounds like nonsense.
Thanks Chris!
Ask Fred
I'm 100% sure Fred authenticated it already!
Too early for a drink, but if I did drink, I would.
bob
The second, off-center strike atop the previously struck coin in the collar must have been fairly light or there would have been some "smooshing."
Press automatically shutting down?
This would be a great stocking stuffer fo me!
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Just got in another off center mirror brockage ... with two dates