@ifthevamzarockin said:
Since we can't see the listings everything is speculation. I will take a WAG at it. The gold coin listed was a counterfeit and was reported as such to ebay. Once ebay started looking at the listings they found a policy violation with the other listings. Even though the coin has been sent back to the selling dealer the OP should still have the ebay listing photo, it might help if we could see that.
This is very likely, imo.
Exactly...the slabs with grades started it all....clear violation of Ebay policy.
@ambro51 said:
Of course eBay sells counterfeits. Henning Nickels come to mind.
Ebay will end those auctions if they notice or are alerted.
They will even end the listings for items clearly labeled "copy".
There are ways around ut that might work: don't label it a copy or reproduction, for example. But if someone alerts them that that's what it is, they will shut it down.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, evn when irrefutably accurate.
Sorry about your pain, but let me explain what many here do not know - the history.
So maybe 15 (?) years ago, this very forum was fuming with eBay complaints and really, really, getting bent about the grading of NTC, ACG, and other self slabbers. The fever pitch got to the level that there was a supposedly "Coin Advisory Board " or some sort of watch dog group that worked (volunteered ?) for eBay that was a source of contact so a dialog either by dealers, collectors and PCGS got eBays attention. Now keep in mind, there were lawsuits going on at this time against ACG and there were verbal tinkle contest going on between the big 2 grading companies. So to say the least, the atmosphere was a bit toxic.
Anyway, the discussions led to the current eBay policy of only PCGS, NGC, and ANACS graded coins (I can not remember if SEGS was allowed or not ?) to be listed and ALL other listings were to be considered raw and uncertified even if they were in a holder. This further led to you could not even assign a grade of your raw coins nor could you photograph the now banned holders.
The end result was a considered a big win for the hobby and collectors and the big three companies while many collectors were totally ticked off because they liked buying lower tiered slabs at half the cost of a NGC or PCGS coin and cracking/crossing the coins to build their collections.
So that's the history and others who may recall those Wild West days may want to chime in but I am betting the OP was buying back then, and maybe recently returned to the hobby to find that the times have in deed changed and while it does not help his situation, at least he can understand what happened, even if he disagrees.
WS
Proud recipient of the coveted PCGS Forum "You Suck" Award Thursday July 19, 2007 11:33 PM and December 30th, 2011 at 8:50 PM.
I have had no problem listing raw coins on eBay. If your using a numerical grade the coin has to be in a holder from one of 4 TPG approved by eBay: PCGS, NGC, ANACS, ICG.
Yes it costs money sell on eBay but it’s a variable sell cost. Try recovering the $210 table fee you paid to take a table at a show including travel, meals, lodging and see how tough it can be to get out of that fixed cost hole and clear that.
@ambro51 said:
Of course eBay sells counterfeits. Henning Nickels come to mind.
Ebay will end those auctions if they notice or are alerted.
They will even end the listings for items clearly labeled "copy".
There are ways around ut that might work: don't label it a copy or reproduction, for example. But if someone alerts them that that's what it is, they will shut it down.
It's a shame they wont end the 10,000 Chinese ASE, AGE and Morgan counterfeit auctions.
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
Wooooha! Did someone just say it's officially "TACO™" Tuesday????
For the longest time I have watched forum members report EBay sales. Just take a gander at 'thedockter', aka "Big Al", aka "kremlin collector" aka ????? new listings rom his "200 year old safe'.
Do you people think you're doing any good?
@Smudge said:
Cover the grade for the photo and list the coin as raw. You can state in the body of the listing that it was graded by NTC, but don’t post a grade. Maybe that will work.
photo can show full label of non-approved grading company. Info (Grading company & grade) on the label can not be in the title or in the description
No Way Out: Stimulus and Money Printing Are the Only Path Left
Very odd. I've sold 100s of raw coins on eBay without an issue. Only one was cancelled by eBay, as I mistakenly used a numerical grade (VG8) in the title, for a raw 1/2 Cent.
Dave
Always looking for original, better date VF20-VF35 Barber quarters and halves, and a quality beer.
@derryb said:
photo can show full label of non-approved grading company. Info (Grading company & grade) on the label can not be in the title or in the description
FYI... from eBay:
Must not include a non-approved grading company, numeric grade or estimated value anywhere in the listing and can't show an image of the item in a graded holder if the image shows a grade
@derryb said:
photo can show full label of non-approved grading company. Info (Grading company & grade) on the label can not be in the title or in the description
FYI... from eBay:
Must not include a non-approved grading company, numeric grade or estimated value anywhere in the listing and can't show an image of the item in a graded holder if the image shows a grade
@ambro51 said:
Of course eBay sells counterfeits. Henning Nickels come to mind.
Ebay will end those auctions if they notice or are alerted.
They will even end the listings for items clearly labeled "copy".
There are ways around ut that might work: don't label it a copy or reproduction, for example. But if someone alerts them that that's what it is, they will shut it down.
It's a shame they wont end the 10,000 Chinese ASE, AGE and Morgan counterfeit auctions.
Don't spread misinformation
They end those all the time. The members of this forum alone have gotten hundreds of items pulled.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, evn when irrefutably accurate.
I for one am GLAD that fleaBay is following policy for once. I wish they would do it all the time.
You are supposed to post a full slab picture with the grade masked. You can use the letter grade but not the numeric. It's really not that hard to follow.
-----Burton ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
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Exactly...the slabs with grades started it all....clear violation of Ebay policy.
Of course eBay sells counterfeits. Henning Nickels come to mind.
Ebay will end those auctions if they notice or are alerted.
They will even end the listings for items clearly labeled "copy".
There are ways around ut that might work: don't label it a copy or reproduction, for example. But if someone alerts them that that's what it is, they will shut it down.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, evn when irrefutably accurate.
Sorry about your pain, but let me explain what many here do not know - the history.
So maybe 15 (?) years ago, this very forum was fuming with eBay complaints and really, really, getting bent about the grading of NTC, ACG, and other self slabbers. The fever pitch got to the level that there was a supposedly "Coin Advisory Board " or some sort of watch dog group that worked (volunteered ?) for eBay that was a source of contact so a dialog either by dealers, collectors and PCGS got eBays attention. Now keep in mind, there were lawsuits going on at this time against ACG and there were verbal tinkle contest going on between the big 2 grading companies. So to say the least, the atmosphere was a bit toxic.
Anyway, the discussions led to the current eBay policy of only PCGS, NGC, and ANACS graded coins (I can not remember if SEGS was allowed or not ?) to be listed and ALL other listings were to be considered raw and uncertified even if they were in a holder. This further led to you could not even assign a grade of your raw coins nor could you photograph the now banned holders.
The end result was a considered a big win for the hobby and collectors and the big three companies while many collectors were totally ticked off because they liked buying lower tiered slabs at half the cost of a NGC or PCGS coin and cracking/crossing the coins to build their collections.
So that's the history and others who may recall those Wild West days may want to chime in but I am betting the OP was buying back then, and maybe recently returned to the hobby to find that the times have in deed changed and while it does not help his situation, at least he can understand what happened, even if he disagrees.
WS
I have had no problem listing raw coins on eBay. If your using a numerical grade the coin has to be in a holder from one of 4 TPG approved by eBay: PCGS, NGC, ANACS, ICG.
Yes it costs money sell on eBay but it’s a variable sell cost. Try recovering the $210 table fee you paid to take a table at a show including travel, meals, lodging and see how tough it can be to get out of that fixed cost hole and clear that.
This is the coin, ex-jewelry and perhaps even cleaned.
It's a shame they wont end the 10,000 Chinese ASE, AGE and Morgan counterfeit auctions.
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
Wooooha! Did someone just say it's officially "TACO™" Tuesday????
I've seen hundreds maybe thousands of counterfeit Morgan listings run their course, despite pointing out why it's CF.
For the longest time I have watched forum members report EBay sales. Just take a gander at 'thedockter', aka "Big Al", aka "kremlin collector" aka ????? new listings rom his "200 year old safe'.
Do you people think you're doing any good?
The NTC cent was probably pulled because you listed it as certified, and NTC is not an Ebay-recognized grading company.
Not sure why the ICG cent or the 2.5 gold was pulled based on teh pictures provided.
What catagory are you listing under?
If truly listing replica or fantasy coins list under
"Coins & Paper Money > Exonumia > Fantasy Issue Coins" and you should not have a problem.
Also you can not list a numerical grade for a raw coin or for a 3rd party slab not on eBay's approved 3rd party list.
Not following any of these will get your listing pulled.
photo can show full label of non-approved grading company. Info (Grading company & grade) on the label can not be in the title or in the description
No Way Out: Stimulus and Money Printing Are the Only Path Left
Very odd. I've sold 100s of raw coins on eBay without an issue. Only one was cancelled by eBay, as I mistakenly used a numerical grade (VG8) in the title, for a raw 1/2 Cent.
Dave
This is the PCGS US coin forum
research your coins, know what companies are accepted by e-bay and other sites, figure out what listing the coins would fit in and then go from there
Coins for Sale: Both Graded and Ungraded
https://photos.app.goo.gl/oqym2YtcS7ZAZ73D6
You can’t spell “numistrust” without “mistrust”
I also give them the worst insert color in the history of coins award.
FYI... from eBay:
Must not include a non-approved grading company, numeric grade or estimated value anywhere in the listing and can't show an image of the item in a graded holder if the image shows a grade
https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/prohibited-restricted-items/stamps-currency-coins-policy?id=4337
Thank you, I stand corrected.
No Way Out: Stimulus and Money Printing Are the Only Path Left
No worries. eBay changes the rules so often you just about have to check them every week to keep from missing something.
Don't spread misinformation
They end those all the time. The members of this forum alone have gotten hundreds of items pulled.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, evn when irrefutably accurate.
Only once per quarter and usually minor changes
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, evn when irrefutably accurate.
I for one am GLAD that fleaBay is following policy for once. I wish they would do it all the time.
You are supposed to post a full slab picture with the grade masked. You can use the letter grade but not the numeric. It's really not that hard to follow.
ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")