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Pair of $20 gold: get graded or no?

LeeroybrownLeeroybrown Posts: 494 ✭✭✭✭✭

Thinkin’ bout sending this pair to PCGS... What are thoughts on this 1890cc $20 gold and 1857 $20 gold piece?

1890cc

1857

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  • PizzaPizza Posts: 4

    Those are some sweet looking $20's. Nice pieces. I like the look of the 57. I would send them in. Good job.

  • CoinlearnerCoinlearner Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If selling a Gold CC and an early $20,most definitely. If keeping .....holding a raw gold piece is much more satisfying than one in plastic :)

  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2, 2019 6:13PM

    The 1890-cc looks pretty wholesome and borderline MS 58/61 as long as that slice on star 12 is on the holder, not the coin. Piece of tape residue? The 1857 has sort of a polished/shiny look from the photo. It might not be though as the reverse seems ok. Always good to get graded as you get them proven genuine and possibly at a higher grade than you figured. The 90cc will certainly bring a lot more in a graded holder than being raw like this. The grading fee will pay for itself. Piggy back the XF/AU 1857 to save on separate postage.

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  • LeeroybrownLeeroybrown Posts: 494 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Roadrunner -

    Here is another pic of the 1890cc outside the holder...


  • tommy44tommy44 Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like them both a lot. I would send them in if for no other reason than authentication in the event you ever want to sell them. They will both fit very nicely in a gold type set.

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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,835 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Keeping them do whatever, selling them, submit.

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 3, 2019 10:26AM

    Authentication seems reasonable and will probably help if sold. Both are EF with the 1890-CC being the better of the two. As for numbers -- meh...

  • CrustyCrusty Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’d say the 1890CC is an AU55 straight grade. The 1857 is AU50 detail. I’d send both in for grading...

  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,721 ✭✭✭✭✭

    not your typical generic $20 pieces. Send them in.

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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,831 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with @MFeld that the👇1890-CC looks like it may grade AU-58, in which case it would be very commercially worthwhile & beneficial to send in for certification & grading.😁👍

    @MFeld said:
    The 1890-CC looks AU58 to me.



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  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1890-CC 58+
    1857 details holder

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, I would submit both.

  • PickwickjrPickwickjr Posts: 557 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Mr. Brown
    I would send them both in for grading. I especially like the CC she looks so minty fresh! Nice type set pieces, congratulation.

  • axelrichaxelrich Posts: 43 ✭✭

    @Pizza said:
    Those are some sweet looking $20's. Nice pieces. I like the look of the 57. I would send them in. Good job.

    Agreed..

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My recommendation is to submit them for grades.....They are nice old gold pieces and a slab will enhance their value and protect them from further degradation. Cheers, RickO

  • Downtown1974Downtown1974 Posts: 7,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not to beat a dead horse, but I would submit them as well.

  • LeeroybrownLeeroybrown Posts: 494 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Any other thoughts on the grades of each of the coins?

    Currently, the grade opinions range from (1890cc) XF to MS61 and (1857) from details to AU50-ish.

    Any other opinions on grade?

  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,721 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62 on the 1890
    60 on the 1857

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,842 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 3, 2019 8:12AM

    Send them to be graded. They are material enough in value to justify the cost. If they were mine I would want to know what PCGS would grade them plus have them slabbed so can value especially if goal to sell / get top dollar.

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,098 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just curious on the history of the coins, those are tough coins to find.

  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,618 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Leeroybrown said:
    Any other thoughts on the grades of each of the coins?

    Currently, the grade opinions range from (1890cc) XF to MS61 and (1857) from details to AU50-ish.

    Any other opinions on grade?

    There's not a huge price swing on the 1857 in AU grades... I;m thinking 55 Details (old cleaning?) on it... But the 1890-CC is easy 5-figures in 62 according to coinfacts and recent auctions... a conditional rarity?? Even at 58 (which is where I think it would grade) it's a fantastic piece. Getting it certified through our host is definitely worth the price of admission!

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,804 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU55 on the CC
    The other looks cleaned.

    I'd send both!

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like that 1890 cc. im not going to grade cause im not real good with gold, fwiw

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,283 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Would like to know what they grade. Peace Roy

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  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,008 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58 and 53

  • LeeroybrownLeeroybrown Posts: 494 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 3, 2019 7:16PM

    I would be very pleased with an AU58 and AU53!

    I think the 57 is a bit of a scarcer date too isn’t it?

    The 1890cc is a bit better too i think with a mintage of just 91K.

    I plan to keep them, but I still think it might be wise to get graded even though I surely do love raw gold...

    Looking at other AU55 examples graded PCGS, it looks like mine is more like a AU58 ???

    ...there are a lot of 55’s with way less luster and detail...

  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Keep or sell, regardless, need authentication for peace of mind and potential future inreases.

  • PickwickjrPickwickjr Posts: 557 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Keep us posted on the grades, I think there are potential buyers here 😜. It is always nice seeing fresh coins that you can hold in your hand. They are still out there. Best of luck 🍀

  • LeeroybrownLeeroybrown Posts: 494 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Grading results are in !!!!!




  • LeeroybrownLeeroybrown Posts: 494 ✭✭✭✭✭

    : ). Yeah, sorry. It’s only plastic... ANA membership perk and 3 day service... oh well 🤷🏻‍♂️.

  • CrustyCrusty Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice score Leeroy. Looks like I graded the 90cc accurately but missed it on the 57. Good luck at CAC!!!

  • jughead1893jughead1893 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭✭✭

    you did well.thanks for the update

  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,697 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Leeroybrown said:
    Grading results are in !!!!!

    Weirdest PCGS holder I've ever seen...

    I know. The letters of PCGS were extremely deformed it looks like NGC

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  • PickwickjrPickwickjr Posts: 557 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congratulation on buying two raw coins and knowing what will grade. 👍🏻
    Excellent addition to your collection.

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