Tuition Lesson 108 - Tightening your focus. Edited for pics.
Coinscratch
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I think I'm gonna need a bigger loupe! I see what ya'll guys & gals mean now when you say it looks better in hand. I only wish, I would have used Gold Shield from the beginning because, your able to learn so much more with the TV's. I hardly even recognized these coins and had lines 2, 4, 5, 6, 9, and 10 at no less than MS68, LOL. Please feel free to chime in on the obvious and not so obvious details I missed.
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Line Items Cert # PCGS # Description Grade Region TrueView®
1 1 38381891 6631 1947-D 50C MS65 USA 
2 1 38381892 3068 1984-D 1C, RD MS67RD USA 
3 1 38381893 3071 1985 1C, RD MS66RD USA 
4 1 38381894 3074 1985-D 1C, RD MS67RD USA 
5 1 38381895 3074 1985-D 1C, RD MS66RD USA 
6 1 38381896 3074 1985-D 1C, RD MS67RD USA 
7 1 38381897 3124 1986 1C, RD MS66RD USA 
8 1 38381898 3121 1986-D 1C, RD MS66RD USA 
9 1 38381899 3065 1987 1C, RD MS67RD USA 
10 1 38381900 3080 1987-D 1C, RD MS67+RD USA 
11 1 38381901 3080 1987-D 1C, RD MS67RD USA 
12 1 38381902 6685 1963-D 50C MS64 USA 
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And these are supposed to be the__** easy **__holes to fill.
Nice coins....Don't be too hard on yourself....it is a learning process...and then you also have to calibrate your views with those of the TPG. Cheers, RickO
For the Lincoln cents keep in mind that specks and spots are going to limit the grade just like contact marks would. Luster and strike also makes a difference which I think people sometimes forget those attributes.
@ricko Thanks and I'm not. In fact the TV's and grades are quite humbling.
Are some of the coins struck with corroded/rusted dies? What else explains the bumps on the surfaces? Just normal wear on the dies?
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There is plenty of luster and plenty of specs and spots as well. I'm still trying to figure out why line 10 is stronger than line 9.
9 seems to have a better strike but a smoother surface with less luster?
Answer: Edited for the spots?
I thought the bumps come from erosion within. Here is Coinfacts 87 D in a 67+ as well. Not sure if the bumps held it back or if they are a non factor.
Can we all agree the 1963-D looks GEM +?
Love the Franklin....looks better than a MS64!!
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Actually, I expected the Franklin to hit 64 but with FBL. Somehow the pic looks better than the coin in hand. Quite the opposite of the others.
Should be in the mailbox today and will have another look later.
Certain light sources will make all the flaws jump right out at you. Find the one that makes your coins look the worst then go from there. I really like that 86 Lincoln you have there.
Here is my only attempt at trying to make a high grade modern Lincoln.
I also got stuck at MS66. In response I went and bought one in 68(85-D I think) to compare.
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@ChrisH821 . I suppose the strike is weak as the rest of your coin looks almost perfect. I think you pointed out another 86 in one of my recent posts (with you) mentioning PL. That one might be making the net trip. Along with some early 90's and earlier 80's.
Specifically 80, 81, & 82 which I will be hitting another learning curve with actual copper, yikes...
I have a feeling its whole other animal.
Yes I remember that. I don't recall if you posted a picture of just that coin after that. Keep in mind PCGS is tough on PL, I recently sent in a Kennedy half that I thought had a chance but missed. I would've been better off just spending that one.
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Look at strike on the reverse. If "States of" is not fully struck, this usually limits the grade to MS67.
@ChrisH821 . Nope I didn't and mainly because I'm not able to take a good picture yet and I wasn't expecting it to actually hit PL but the grade I was. Now, after these grades I'm not sure that coin or any other coin I have will actually be good enough.
But, with all the information I gained on this order I should be able to cull out a good many of them.
Tough? Yes! This dime did not hit PL and not sure if it was the fields or inconsistent cameo on the devices.
That's helpful. So, then the coins I have with the weak reverse (at least half) could have graded higher with a strong reverse. A lot to take in as the lower graded 66's with a strong reverse apparently have other issues.
Now that's a nice dime! Also the plate coin on the coinfacts page for that date/mm
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Like those coins very nice & Lustrous. I think you did well.
Thanks, I sold it to one of the members and that was the second plate, the first was a Lincoln 1996 D ms68 and from a mint set also.
You can definitely see the sharper details on this one.
Thanks, I'm going to enjoy them regardless of the number. Most of those were from roll hunting anyway.