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erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,287 ✭✭✭✭✭

Does it bother you having mint state toned coins sitting next to mint state untoned coins in your albums or slabs?

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  • david3142david3142 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 6, 2019 6:07PM

    Not with slabs since I generally look at them individually. With albums I prefer a consistent look but a little bit of toning mixed in with white coins can be nice.

  • ShadyDaveShadyDave Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nope, doesn’t bother me! As long as they’re good looking and accurately graded I welcome them with open arms. The coins should speak for themselves anyway.

    I’m building a MS-FB merc set and I have toned and untoned in PCGS and NGC in my set...


  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,839 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes I would prefer a full red Lincoln set, but my wallet shut the door on that idea. With silver coins I would prefer untoned but I don't mind it that much as long as the tone is nice and for the most part not heavy. The biggest reason I stay away from toned coins is the ridiculous premiums and the high percentage of AT slabbed or raw.

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  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 6, 2019 8:22PM

    @erwindoc said:
    Does it bother you having mint state toned coins sitting next to mint state untoned coins in your albums or slabs?

    Yes and no. I admit it's a personal-mental problem. But only with albums. In my albums I take the RICKO philosophy. Tarnish is bad! In albums I can't stand looking at a tarnished coin along side a perfect non- tarnished coin. In albums.....NO tarnish! With my slab collections.....I don't care. Blast white or toned.....it's all good.

  • scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 1,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tarnish may be bad, but they don’t call it “album tone” for nothing! Be careful how long they sit there.

  • santinidollarsantinidollar Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not a bit. But I’m not really a toner collector though I do have some.

  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,859 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just buy great coins you like and don’t worry about it. With rare exceptions, sets get parted out when they’re sold or upgraded anyhow.

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BryceM said:
    Just buy great coins you like and don’t worry about it. With rare exceptions, sets get parted out when they’re sold or upgraded anyhow.

    Yes. That's the main thing. Perfectly stated.

  • thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A set is what I say it is, for my enjoyment.

    thefinn
  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 6, 2019 10:04PM

    @scubafuel said:
    Tarnish may be bad, but they don’t call it “album tone” for nothing! Be careful how long they sit there.

    You are correct! Example; a few years ago I took out and looked at my Mercury Dime collection that is in a Whitman folder. I had not looked at it for maybe 20 years. Some of the beautiful toners that I remembered had turned BLACK. Oh, yea....those coins are gone beyond repair.......... Unless I can locate some magical green rose thorns.

  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,700 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not really an issue with me, as I live mainly in the VF/XF world. If I see a blast white VF Barber half, I always pass. Dipped material is fine, but it’s just not for me. So my sets are fairly well balanced. My circulated PCGS sets have a nice, dirty circulated look. Many look like they’ve been bouncing around in a diesel mechanics pocket for years!

    Dave

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  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dave, I agree. Always pass on blast white VF Barber Halfs. Whenever I see them I figure Bon-Ami is involved somehow. Good strategy!!!!!

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Walkerfan said:
    Absolutely not!

    My set is very eclectic and almost every piece is different or unique in some way.

    I think that that makes it a lot more interesting, because of the variety.

    I have a lot of toned coins and a lot of snow white coins, as well.

    I agree 100%.

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Dave99B said:
    Not really an issue with me, as I live mainly in the VF/XF world. If I see a blast white VF Barber half, I always pass. Dipped material is fine, but it’s just not for me. So my sets are fairly well balanced. My circulated PCGS sets have a nice, dirty circulated look. Many look like they’ve been bouncing around in a diesel mechanics pocket for years!

    Dave

    This is my favorite look for circs also.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just do not add tarnished coins to my collections.... ;) Cheers, RickO

  • matt_dacmatt_dac Posts: 961 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No, I don’t buy toned coins :)

  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,419 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 7, 2019 7:26AM

    @BryceM said:
    Just buy great coins you like and don’t worry about it. With rare exceptions, sets get parted out when they’re sold or upgraded anyhow.

    That’s logical but this question isn’t completely about logic.

    Mixing toned and untoned coins doesn’t bother me at all, but mixing slab types does. Not that I prefer one service over the others. I have some PCGS sets and some NGC sets.

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  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,630 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    I just do not add tarnished coins to my collections.... ;) Cheers, RickO

    Come ricko, "you have controlled your fear, release your anger" and take your place by my side!

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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,750 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Catbert said:

    @ricko said:
    I just do not add tarnished coins to my collections.... ;) Cheers, RickO

    Come ricko, "you have controlled your fear, release your anger" and take your place by my side!

    I'm so jealous of this 1949 S gem ogh! I think it's wonderful! The perfect key coin for a Franklin set. <3<3

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,257 ✭✭✭✭✭

    no, I like a good mix on things

  • WCCWCC Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Depends upon the set being collected. In my current area of interest, I buy what is available, not in the quality I wish existed. Most of the coins are mishandled or damaged so I consider myself fortunate to find anything decent for most in the series.

    If I was collecting a US set or one from elsewhere with higher availability, I'd try to buy it with the look it "should" have. For any 19th century and earlier US series except Morgan dollars, I'd prefer toned. 20th century I'd be fine with either since I consider it normal for coins of this age to have no toning.

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 7, 2019 5:40PM

    @Catbert said:

    @ricko said:
    I just do not add tarnished coins to my collections.... ;) Cheers, RickO

    Come ricko, "you have controlled your fear, release your anger" and take your place by my side!

    That coin is a beauty. The question I have is how much tilting under your preferred light source did it take to get that image? And.....I would like to see it "in hand." That said, the photo of the coin is magnificent .

    P.S. To put it another way......In the 1980's (anybody here remember those days?)
    there was a photo studio operating around here called GLAMOR SHOTS. Women would go there and have pictures of themselves taken to look as if they were HOLLYWOOD STARLETS. Well, the lovely Mrs. Hydrant and her sister took the bait. The results in my opinion were less than flattering. Oh, they were all made up to look like movie star girls but it wasn't the REAL DEAL........ "IN HAND" ...... the lovely Mrs. Hydrant is drop dead DYN-O-MITE! The glamor shots.......not so much. Hey, photos can be misleading. Our girls, our coins. We love them. Under the natural light of day they both look the best!

  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,630 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It’s a very accurate pic to its in hand view. Credit to CRO photographer. Thanks.

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  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 7, 2019 6:05PM

    @Catbert said:
    It’s a very accurate pic to its in hand view. Credit to CRO photographer. Thanks.

    CRO is in my opinion FABULOUS for the way their website images mirror the coin in hand. I have bought from them only twice and both coins were so, so nice. Better than the pictures. Hey Catbert, I didn't mean anything personal. That Franklin IS beautiful! Wish I owned it!!!!!!!

  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,630 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No offense taken! I absolutely desire picture accuracy for my coins.

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  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It doesn't bother me except sometimes it looks off when I have a white coin with a few nice toners on either side or the other way around.

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  • WildIdeaWildIdea Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I appreciate a well matched set. Coins that have a similar look overall. Matching grades and slabs takes it to another level.

    Still, for instance, I have a toned BN Lincoln cent date/mintmark set going but have 2-3 full red pieces on common dates. They’re just too pretty and flashy and came through my early collecting dealings raw, so why not. Mixed slabs too. I suppose if I found a toner for the dates I’d replace them but it doesn’t bother me much. I’m not much for crossing just to have same plastic either, but I still get the concept. I just love Lincoln’s however they come and can be found and bought. I think I can say the same for Morgan’s or whatever.

  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,329 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nope, we can't all be Sunnywoods.

    theknowitalltroll;
  • ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,799 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If the coin is nice and attractive, it always has a home in my sets! I do have a few where I'm trying for the same look, but as for the older classic sets, anything thing (mid-grade on up) goes as long as it hasn't been to the scrubber. My bust and seated halves have a mix of circulated/toned/MS pieces.

  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Collect how and what you like. Don't let what other people think determine how you collect.

    For me no tarnished/toned coins.

    Donato

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  • CCGGGCCGGG Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No way... Never saw a toned coin I liked so they aren't any in my sets.

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