Fake $5 Indian on eBay

RedstoneCoins · October 21, 2019 9:41PM

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-5-INDIAN-HALF-EAGLE-GOLD-JEWELRY-GRADE-DAMAGED-REVERSE/163914454136?hash=item262a101478:g:ryAAAOSwM6ZdrnGZ&LH_BIN=1

Double rim visible & dots on eyebrow indicative of casting give it away.

thefinn · October 21, 2019 9:52PM

And damaged too. He has a 30 day return privilege, so he may not know.

coinpalice · October 22, 2019 12:03AM

the 1873 2 1/2 liberty gold he has listed is fake too

Kliao · October 22, 2019 4:39AM

Gone

oih82w8 · October 22, 2019 4:48AM

While I think that it is great that the forum members report these listings, but please take a moment and capture the images and post them, so those of us who are late to the thread can see these "coins", and possibly learn from them.

ricko · October 22, 2019 7:45AM

Listing gone....As said above, we need to capture the image so that members can learn what points were observed to warrant the 'fake' determination. Cheers, RickO

johnny9434 · October 22, 2019 8:15AM

good, it went poof

jwitten · October 23, 2019 7:01AM

I'm not sure which seller had the fake, but here is a fake one currently up for auction. Report away!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1908-Indian-Head-5-Dollar-Half-Eagle-Gold-Coin/293281910009?hash=item4448f6ccf9:g:yKEAAOSw1V9dp2EO

lcoopie · October 23, 2019 7:26AM

@ricko said:
Listing gone....As said above, we need to capture the image so that members can learn what points were observed to warrant the 'fake' determination. Cheers, RickO

This is an EXCELLENT IDEA
Perhaps we can have a nice long thread with
JUST THE PHOTOS, and a description
In other words, not the constant back and forth drama usually present
Very educational.

crazyhounddog · October 23, 2019 9:47AM

So tell me what the dead give away is.
Thanks

LindeDad · October 23, 2019 10:27AM

Not sure but I see some weird bumps by the R in Liberty.

I did not report as I do not know enough about Indian gold to spot the bad ones. All my gold is in slabs by PCGS.

ifthevamzarockin · October 23, 2019 10:40AM

@crazyhounddog said:
So tell me what the dead give away is.
Thanks

Raised rim, lack of details on feathers & talons, weak designers initials, lack of contact marks.... just to name a few.

Auction ends in less than an hour......hope someone here can get it pulled in time.

jwitten · October 23, 2019 10:47AM

@crazyhounddog said:
So tell me what the dead give away is.
Thanks

4 something grams is a clue, lol. Plus it is a terrible fake, mushy as heck, etc.

coinpalice · October 23, 2019 10:53AM

only 37 minutes left, the final bid will probably be higher, because there is bonus e bucks involved

coinpalice · October 23, 2019 11:02AM

I was looking at his other auctions, this person buys returns from retail stores, and re sells them

crazyhounddog · October 23, 2019 1:34PM

I > @ifthevamzarockin said:

@crazyhounddog said:
So tell me what the dead give away is.
Thanks

Raised rim, lack of details on feathers & talons, weak designers initials, lack of contact marks.... just to name a few.

Auction ends in less than an hour......hope someone here can get it pulled in time.

I noticed the rim right away and was wondering about the strike. I’ve taken a strong interest in these gold Indians.
Thanks for the great information.👍🏻

GSpencer · October 24, 2019 10:12AM

Ugh. I'm just going to have to stick with buying slabbed gold for the foreseeable future. I absolutely love quarter & half eagle indians and I wish I didn't. I don't mind overpaying a bit to stay away from a fake, but dang! Thanks for all the info in this thread and others like it.

jwitten · October 24, 2019 10:20AM

@GSpencer said:
Ugh. I'm just going to have to stick with buying slabbed gold for the foreseeable future. I absolutely love quarter & half eagle indians and I wish I didn't. I don't mind overpaying a bit to stay away from a fake, but dang! Thanks for all the info in this thread and others like it.

Just buy them from me, I always have some for sale! lol

GSpencer · October 24, 2019 10:27AM

@jwitten said:

@GSpencer said:
Ugh. I'm just going to have to stick with buying slabbed gold for the foreseeable future. I absolutely love quarter & half eagle indians and I wish I didn't. I don't mind overpaying a bit to stay away from a fake, but dang! Thanks for all the info in this thread and others like it.

Just buy them from me, I always have some for sale! lol

May just do that. Your quarter-eagle set is partially responsible for motivating me to put one together

BuffaloIronTail · October 25, 2019 4:45AM

@GSpencer said:
Ugh. I'm just going to have to stick with buying slabbed gold for the foreseeable future. I absolutely love quarter & half eagle indians and I wish I didn't. I don't mind overpaying a bit to stay away from a fake, but dang! Thanks for all the info in this thread and others like it.

Stay away from this one...............................

Pete

MFeld · October 25, 2019 5:14AM

@BuffaloIronTail said:

@GSpencer said:
Ugh. I'm just going to have to stick with buying slabbed gold for the foreseeable future. I absolutely love quarter & half eagle indians and I wish I didn't. I don't mind overpaying a bit to stay away from a fake, but dang! Thanks for all the info in this thread and others like it.

Stay away from this one...............................

Pete

Link?

lcoopie · October 25, 2019 5:28AM

Is that a fake holder?

Kliao · October 25, 2019 5:28AM

@lcoopie said:
Is that a fake holder?

Yep

The NGC certification says possible counterfeit holder

lcoopie · October 25, 2019 5:34AM

I will add it to my other thread

Fake $5 Indian on eBay

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