@Oldhoopster said:
It's PCGS's sandbox, so if you want to play here, you have to follow their rules. It's nice that Brett is publishing some of the unwritten things that will help those who like to push the envelope
IMO, if you don't like the rules, find somewhere else to play. If the rules become too restricting (or the platform becomes too cumbersome to use) people will go elsewhere. As long as PCGS feels they are getting value from hosting this forum(PR, brand awareness, etc) they are going to keep the rules this way. There are things on here I don't like, but as long as the scholarship (which is dropping IMO) and information posted here continue to have value to me, I'll keep reading the posts
All this is true. It would also partially explain why participation amongst veteran posters who used to contribute a lot is down exponentially.
It is what it is. At the end of the day not that important in the grand scheme of things
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I don’t see anything in the rules targeting veteran posters.
There is nothing targeting veterans. I read it as some of them (veteran members) spend less time posting because of all the "drama." I cannot get most of the knowledgeable folks I've asked to even join CU just to lurk.
@Oldhoopster said:
It's PCGS's sandbox, so if you want to play here, you have to follow their rules. It's nice that Brett is publishing some of the unwritten things that will help those who like to push the envelope
IMO, if you don't like the rules, find somewhere else to play. If the rules become too restricting (or the platform becomes too cumbersome to use) people will go elsewhere. As long as PCGS feels they are getting value from hosting this forum(PR, brand awareness, etc) they are going to keep the rules this way. There are things on here I don't like, but as long as the scholarship (which is dropping IMO) and information posted here continue to have value to me, I'll keep reading the posts
All this is true. It would also partially explain why participation amongst veteran posters who used to contribute a lot is down exponentially.
It is what it is. At the end of the day not that important in the grand scheme of things
m
I don’t see anything in the rules targeting veteran posters.
Of course not. I didn’t say that. It’s a fact that many veteran posters are no longer here or posting less. The list is long.The forum has changed a lot in the past year or so.
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@Justacommeman said:
Somewhere in So Cal Brett is just waking up and probably minding his own business. He will proceed to fire up the Keurig and pop some gluten free bread in the toaster. He might jump on the internet and see what crazy stuff is happening in the US of A.
And then........ he may check out this thread. His first thought will be, “ Man I thought I flushed the forum toilet before I turned in last night . Dayum.”
m
Just upgraded to a Breville and my diet actually consists entirely of gluten, but otherwise this is extremely accurate
It is simple. Our host is 100% funding this venture.. and for whatever reason. Thank you !!!!
It is a good and beneficial venture at no cost to members. I like to assume that our host hopes that all members exercise politeness, good behavior, respect for others opinion and above all , common sense when posting on the forum.
There may be occasions when something "comes out" not exactly as it was meant and hence is understood or interpreted the wrong way.
That, IMO, is when the Mods should try and clarify the issue before taking drastic actions. Perhaps via PM or right out on the open.
Remember, nobody is perfect! although, some might think they are
However, before someone is a candidate for "canning" by a moderator, every effort should be made by such moderator to rule out an honest misunderstanding. Should be easy???? right???
If everyone behaves, is polite and respects others, there should be no issues and Brett would not have to establish new additional rules.
@Justacommeman said:
Somewhere in So Cal Brett is just waking up and probably minding his own business. He will proceed to fire up the Keurig and pop some gluten free bread in the toaster. He might jump on the internet and see what crazy stuff is happening in the US of A.
And then........ he may check out this thread. His first thought will be, “ Man I thought I flushed the forum toilet before I turned in last night . Dayum.”
m
Just upgraded to a Breville
Oh, an aristocrat
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Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
@keets said:
I had a dream the other night: page after page at the forum was dominated by an inside-trader explaining to a classroom filled with sheep about the nuances of coin grading, thread after thread after thread. I woke up in a cold sweat, someone shaking me and calling my name. when I opened my eyes it was a giant coin, the whole thing really startled me!! I fell back into a deep sleep and upon waking I discovered that my post count was 10 and I had no badges, I didn't have no stinkin' badges, someone had taken my stinkin' badges!!
Late night libations?
Numismatist Ordinaire See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
@Oldhoopster said:
It's PCGS's sandbox, so if you want to play here, you have to follow their rules. It's nice that Brett is publishing some of the unwritten things that will help those who like to push the envelope
IMO, if you don't like the rules, find somewhere else to play. If the rules become too restricting (or the platform becomes too cumbersome to use) people will go elsewhere. As long as PCGS feels they are getting value from hosting this forum(PR, brand awareness, etc) they are going to keep the rules this way. There are things on here I don't like, but as long as the scholarship (which is dropping IMO) and information posted here continue to have value to me, I'll keep reading the posts
All this is true. It would also partially explain why participation amongst veteran posters who used to contribute a lot is down exponentially.
It is what it is. At the end of the day not that important in the grand scheme of things
m
I don’t see anything in the rules targeting veteran posters.
Of course not. I didn’t say that. It’s a fact that many veteran posters are no longer here or posting less. The list is long.The forum has changed a lot in the past year or so.
m
The rules don't seem that hard to follow. If people want to post elsewhere that may be for the best. It would certainly be a shame if PCGS shut down the forums completely.
@Baley said:
Maybe not due to the rules, but due to the need for the rules.. get the distinction?
I understand the distinction but that doesn't apply to what I think of as major forum participation changes, which mostly seemed to do with well known figures breaking the rules.
@Baley said:
Maybe not due to the rules, but due to the need for the rules.. get the distinction?
I understand the distinction but that doesn't apply to what I think of as major forum participation changes, which mostly seemed to do with well known figures breaking the rules.
Several of those figures were completely unrepentant. They were begging for it and they got it. Those weren't arbitrary rule violations, but willful and repeated rule violations as they had been warned.
@giantsfan20 said:
Nobody is safe from getting banned. One of the PCGS "experts" got it for who knows what?
Wish they would do it with some of those PMD posters.
Some of the PMD posters were banned after it became clear they were trolling. Other people are asking possibly legitimate questions. Frankly, those threads only linger as long as they do because some of us can't resist commenting on them. If the first couple people just said "PMD" and everyone else resisted the urge to comment, those threads would be off the first page in a matter of hours.
This isn’t rocket science. We’re all supposedly adults and with or without guidelines we should know what is inappropriate for any forum. If you walked into a restaurant and started shouting how awful the food is what do you think management would do? They would of course at some point rightfully throw you out.
@Coinstartled said:
Best to skip the pickled herring too close to bedtime.
With me it is pepperoni pizza that causes weird dreams. Seriously.
Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
I personally think that unwritten rules should be numbered in upper case Roman Numerals.
Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
Wish they would do it with some of those PMD posters.
I sort of kind of disagree. The only time I ever think about this forum when I'm not on it is when I pick up a bashed penny in a parking lot. Brings a smile to my face...... Thinking about the trolls.
Late night libel. The forum moderating team consists of four adult human beings, who all live on the west coast, and typically attempt to get some sleep each and every night. Intentionally saving trouble for late night isn't permissible. In my own mental ledger when you break our easy to follow rules after-hours it's two strikes, not one.
Seems like a ridiculous rule to me.
There are people who don’t live in california and are normally up when you all are normally asleep.
Personally I think you all at pcgs are doing a superb job with this forum that we all love e so much. I have met Heather and she is one of the sweetest ladies on the planet. Since she’s taken over it’s better than I can ever remember it being.
Carry on
The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
@skier07 said:
If you walked into a restaurant and started shouting how awful the food is what do you think management would do? They would of course at some point rightfully throw you out.
Justacommeman provided a reasonable explanation as to why I choose not to participate much as this is the first day in about 45-50 days I have participated. Read the comments on this thread... And how this has unfolded. I know my time is better spent elsewhere and I suspect several here are pleased with my decision.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
There are things on here that will help awareness. If you don't like the publishing in the sandbox
or the platform of "if you want information, play here" as PCGS feels,
or becomes too cumbersome, invasive, or restricting, to use (which could also partially explain non- participation as the scholarship is dropping)
stop and think are you helping or hoarding.
To me I love the light hearted gesture this post states.
Grandfarthering the true aspectics of publishing, that represents yourself as a person, friend or teacher.
I believe it is provided as a service to our hobby.
In the grand scheme of things, I'll keep reading and making new castles with archers , draw bridges, moats........in the sand box that we share!
If you need a weekend or occasional weekday part time moderator, I'd happily volunteer mainly to delete problematic posts leaving the rest (e.g. strikes/banning/anything super controversial) for you and Heather when you're back in the office.
@Justacommeman said:
Somewhere in So Cal Brett is just waking up and probably minding his own business. He will proceed to fire up the Keurig and pop some gluten free bread in the toaster. He might jump on the internet and see what crazy stuff is happening in the US of A.
And then........ he may check out this thread. His first thought will be, “ Man I thought I flushed the forum toilet before I turned in last night . Dayum.”
m
Just upgraded to a Breville
Breville. Brett Charville.
You actually can’t spell Breville without Brett Charville. You don’t even have to unscramble to get there. Coincidence? I think not
Hmmmmm. Is there some kind of emolument clause in the CU Forum Constitution?
m
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Comments
Simple
Respect
There is nothing targeting veterans. I read it as some of them (veteran members) spend less time posting because of all the "drama." I cannot get most of the knowledgeable folks I've asked to even join CU just to lurk.
Of course not. I didn’t say that. It’s a fact that many veteran posters are no longer here or posting less. The list is long.The forum has changed a lot in the past year or so.
m
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
You’d probably like to think that. But even though I don’t always agree with him, you’re badly mistaken.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Dear Mr. White,
Are you possibly a former PCGS administrator?
ANSWERED: "As a left-leaning millennial,..." What have we created?
Totally fine and valid opinion to have.
Brett Charville --- I work at PCGS
GOOD MORNING! Thank goodness you seem to be in a very good mood today!
Just upgraded to a Breville and my diet actually consists entirely of gluten, but otherwise this is extremely accurate
Brett Charville --- I work at PCGS
Common courtesy goes a long way.
How about calling it Libel Of Late-night? That way when you ban them you can say "banned LOL". May as well have fun while you're at it.
"A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
One man's night is another man's morning...:)
It is simple. Our host is 100% funding this venture.. and for whatever reason. Thank you !!!!
It is a good and beneficial venture at no cost to members. I like to assume that our host hopes that all members exercise politeness, good behavior, respect for others opinion and above all , common sense when posting on the forum.
There may be occasions when something "comes out" not exactly as it was meant and hence is understood or interpreted the wrong way.
That, IMO, is when the Mods should try and clarify the issue before taking drastic actions. Perhaps via PM or right out on the open.
Remember, nobody is perfect! although, some might think they are
However, before someone is a candidate for "canning" by a moderator, every effort should be made by such moderator to rule out an honest misunderstanding. Should be easy???? right???
If everyone behaves, is polite and respects others, there should be no issues and Brett would not have to establish new additional rules.
Oh, an aristocrat
m
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Late night libations?
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
well new rules, old rules not much will change on the forum just going to cut the drama threads down which is fine with me
2003-present
A ban may not be obvious, in that, if it was not posted publicly; and sending “bad” PMs can get one in trouble, too; and we would never know.
Commaville,
The rules don't seem that hard to follow. If people want to post elsewhere that may be for the best. It would certainly be a shame if PCGS shut down the forums completely.
Maybe not due to the rules, but due to the need for the rules.. get the distinction?
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
Nobody is safe from getting banned. One of the PCGS "experts" got it for who knows what?
Wish they would do it with some of those PMD posters.
I understand the distinction but that doesn't apply to what I think of as major forum participation changes, which mostly seemed to do with well known figures breaking the rules.
2.1k+ views in less than 48 hours.
Must be a record.
Several of those figures were completely unrepentant. They were begging for it and they got it. Those weren't arbitrary rule violations, but willful and repeated rule violations as they had been warned.
Some of the PMD posters were banned after it became clear they were trolling. Other people are asking possibly legitimate questions. Frankly, those threads only linger as long as they do because some of us can't resist commenting on them. If the first couple people just said "PMD" and everyone else resisted the urge to comment, those threads would be off the first page in a matter of hours.
This isn’t rocket science. We’re all supposedly adults and with or without guidelines we should know what is inappropriate for any forum. If you walked into a restaurant and started shouting how awful the food is what do you think management would do? They would of course at some point rightfully throw you out.
With me it is pepperoni pizza that causes weird dreams. Seriously.
I personally think that unwritten rules should be numbered in upper case Roman Numerals.
This sounds like a fun topic at the next FUN luncheon!
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My registry sets
I sort of kind of disagree. The only time I ever think about this forum when I'm not on it is when I pick up a bashed penny in a parking lot. Brings a smile to my face...... Thinking about the trolls.
Seems like a ridiculous rule to me.
There are people who don’t live in california and are normally up when you all are normally asleep.
Personally I think you all at pcgs are doing a superb job with this forum that we all love e so much. I have met Heather and she is one of the sweetest ladies on the planet. Since she’s taken over it’s better than I can ever remember it being.
Carry on
Olive garden gives me a free dessert.
Justacommeman provided a reasonable explanation as to why I choose not to participate much as this is the first day in about 45-50 days I have participated. Read the comments on this thread... And how this has unfolded. I know my time is better spent elsewhere and I suspect several here are pleased with my decision.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
There are things on here that will help awareness. If you don't like the publishing in the sandbox
or the platform of "if you want information, play here" as PCGS feels,
or becomes too cumbersome, invasive, or restricting, to use (which could also partially explain non- participation as the scholarship is dropping)
stop and think are you helping or hoarding.
To me I love the light hearted gesture this post states.
Grandfarthering the true aspectics of publishing, that represents yourself as a person, friend or teacher.
I believe it is provided as a service to our hobby.
In the grand scheme of things, I'll keep reading and making new castles with archers , draw bridges, moats........in the sand box that we share!
It should definitely start with the Law and Order gavel sound too.
@BrettPCGS
If you need a weekend or occasional weekday part time moderator, I'd happily volunteer mainly to delete problematic posts leaving the rest (e.g. strikes/banning/anything super controversial) for you and Heather when you're back in the office.
Just adding another view to the 3k+ views (in less than 96 hours.)
Good rules. Might need a dedicated BST mod for the users who create multiple threads on the same day.
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Breville. Brett Charville.
You actually can’t spell Breville without Brett Charville. You don’t even have to unscramble to get there. Coincidence? I think not
Hmmmmm. Is there some kind of emolument clause in the CU Forum Constitution?
m
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
...hell yeah, this was the final thread I looked over before hitting the LIQ for a Monster...saw a new scratcher, bought 6...this was my first ticket
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"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
...lol, I know man... I was in AZ in September and they had Christmas scratchers I was playing. They were advertising them like it was time to win so you could afford to buy some presents for the big day/week
All 100 post threads should have some bumper music.