I have been friends with Shish for at least 7 years. He’s been over my house, slept at my house. He’s met my family and my parents. I’ve met his family, been over his parents house. Went to fun show with my son and stayed with Shish. Actually told Shish he bought a baseball diecrack 1841 o that he paid $900 off a friend. I told him about the variety not even trying to pick him. He sold it for over 6k, never asked for a dime and never received a dime. That’s the kind of friend I was. It’s not about the money. Money comes and goes. If anyone was close to shish it was me. Nobody looks good here but the saint isn’t a saint. As far as the text I’m on them. Myself , Shish crusty, and Leeroy brown.
I have been friends with both but I will not associate with someone that takes advantage of friends.
It sucks for the 5 of us, nobody’s a winner here.
This thread and the original thread is the numismatic equivalent of an end of season reunion show hosted by Andy Cohen for one of the Bravo network's Housewives shows.
It would be interesting to hobbiests to see the main characters in this situation over the subject coin, plus representatives of the collector, dealer, auction house and TPG segments of the hobby sit on couches in a studio and hash out everything that everyone is concerned with.
I wonder how much drama would arise from such a reunion show?
I have read both threads with interest.
I guess I can now understand a little a bit why the Bravo network reality shows are so popular.
Here is my take. No one pulled a gun on crusty to make him buy coin at any price. He bought it because he liked it. Don't really know if dealer knew about the cleaning but I would say not because coin graded straight. I know graders make mistakes but being this is their job I would side with graders most of time. I think the one big point we are missing is that the coin sold in a free market and got what a willing buyer was willing to pay. Just bad luck if coin dropped in value from when crusty bought it. What would it have sold for if Crusty had mentioned on ebay that maybe it was cleaned. Its always buyer beware and trust no one. I bet over the last two years there are thousands of examples of coins not being worth what someone paid for them.
The guys know the truth Greg.
So are you denying talking about my 10-year-old daughter and wife to one of our friends.
I know you have a habit of talking about many people. I choose not to call them because you will look very bad. I can get there numbers very easily. Not knowing them I’m sure they would wonder how I know the info about there families.
If you really want to go there you know my number and you can call me.
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I have been friends with Shish for at least 7 years. He’s been over my house, slept at my house. He’s met my family and my parents. I’ve met his family, been over his parents house. Went to fun show with my son and stayed with Shish. Actually told Shish he bought a baseball diecrack 1841 o that he paid $900 off a friend. I told him about the variety not even trying to pick him. He sold it for over 6k, never asked for a dime and never received a dime. That’s the kind of friend I was. It’s not about the money. Money comes and goes. If anyone was close to shish it was me. Nobody looks good here but the saint isn’t a saint. As far as the text I’m on them. Myself , Shish crusty, and Leeroy brown.
I have been friends with both but I will not associate with someone that takes advantage of friends.
It sucks for the 5 of us, nobody’s a winner here.
This thread and the original thread is the numismatic equivalent of an end of season reunion show hosted by Andy Cohen for one of the Bravo network's Housewives shows.
It would be interesting to hobbiests to see the main characters in this situation over the subject coin, plus representatives of the collector, dealer, auction house and TPG segments of the hobby sit on couches in a studio and hash out everything that everyone is concerned with.
I wonder how much drama would arise from such a reunion show?
I have read both threads with interest.
I guess I can now understand a little a bit why the Bravo network reality shows are so popular.
Pickwickjr you broke your word to me, we were done before this transaction went south.
Your continuous bad mouthing of many dealers and myself is not a good reflection on you.
I agree no winners, hopefully we all learned something.
Here is my take. No one pulled a gun on crusty to make him buy coin at any price. He bought it because he liked it. Don't really know if dealer knew about the cleaning but I would say not because coin graded straight. I know graders make mistakes but being this is their job I would side with graders most of time. I think the one big point we are missing is that the coin sold in a free market and got what a willing buyer was willing to pay. Just bad luck if coin dropped in value from when crusty bought it. What would it have sold for if Crusty had mentioned on ebay that maybe it was cleaned. Its always buyer beware and trust no one. I bet over the last two years there are thousands of examples of coins not being worth what someone paid for them.
The guys know the truth Greg.
So are you denying talking about my 10-year-old daughter and wife to one of our friends.
I know you have a habit of talking about many people. I choose not to call them because you will look very bad. I can get there numbers very easily. Not knowing them I’m sure they would wonder how I know the info about there families.
If you really want to go there you know my number and you can call me.
Let's shut this down and make it educational all at the same time. Two quick points will be posted separately shortly
Brett Charville --- I work at PCGS