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Why eBay Coin Dealers Drink Episode ___: Where are the coins that haven't been made yet?
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I sold a Dansco album of Presidential dollars listed as complete 2007-2016. I get this email from the buyer:
"Hello finally had a chance to go through the album and it seems to missing the following.
Jimmy Carter P and D
George H W Bush P and D
Bill Clinton P and D
George W Bush P and D
Barack Obama P and D"
To be fair, he's not wrong. The album didn't contain those coins that haven't ever been made.
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Everybody knows the cardinal rule of album-style coin collecting: If there is no hole for it, it doesn't exist!
He's pretty astute with dates. He didn't include our current President who was inaugurated in 2017.
OK, I have to ask,,,,,,, what did he say when you told him why he didn't get them?
GHWB died last year, what no coin?
That is funny....Buyer must be a new collector....Cheers, RickO
I think the album predated Trump, so that would have been a blank hole, not a labeled one.
Crickets...
Prosit!
L'Chaim!
It’s like the guy quoting me greensheet from his phone at my table at a show on an item I had priced at $100 (market value) likes it some revelation from god. While I would have taken 5 -10 pct off to move it what he was seeking to pay absurdly low.
Stuffing him in the backfield / I told him “so what that’s wholesale.” Then asked him “do you have one to sell me at that?”
Yes there are flakes and know it all flare stars both online and at shows. Just quickly handle them and send them on their way. Don’t let them bug you.
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Nice come back!
At shows beware of thieves who look at multiple items and like a card sharp will shoplift it the moment your distracted or look away. Currency is very vulnerable to these people who simply came to steal / shoplift.
What about the hole for the 1965-D cent in my Whitman folder?
To be fair, he may not know that you have to be dead to have a coin struck in your honor.
The very first "penny board" had a space for a 1921-D cent, which of course was never struck.
David Lange sent me this picture for the story I am working on about the 1922 cents.
Reminder that politics do not belong on the forum.
Heather Boyd
PCGS Senior Director of Marketing
Reminder that politics do not belong on the forum.
Reminder, this isn't about Politics, it's a legitimate question about coins that weren't minted but have been included in albums marketed for that series. but, I digress.
I get collectors asking for Carter, Bush, Clinton etc. Presidential Dollars as a matter of routine and always have to explain the way the Bill was written. they usually say "President Bush is dead, why no coin for him??" and I have to explain that. I think it really makes people nuts when they have a collection and it isn't complete, even though it is. maybe the fine folks at Dansco should make plugs for those holes and then collectors of the Dollars can relax.
I actually own one of the old blue Whitman albums for Franklin Half-Dollars that must have been printed very close to the JFK assassination, it has dated holes the series up to around 1970. it is an oddity to be sure.
@keets, you are late to this thread as I already deleted the offending posts. Thank you for your thoughts though.
Heather Boyd
PCGS Senior Director of Marketing
Did Whitman make the blue tri-fold albums for Ike Dollars? If so, do they have holes for the 1975-P&D dollars that never happened?
They did make them for IKEs, but all the ones I've seen must have been printed after 1975
Um ... not quite. Eunice Kennedy Shriver was honored on the 1995 Special Olympics commemorative ... she only looked like she had passed.
[Just in case ... here's my open apology to the snowflakes on the Board. Ms. Kennedy's work with the Special Olympics was outstanding and she deserved to be honored. My joke ... which was damn funny ... was just humor ... a joke ... not social commentary.]
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With all due respect, then why is there not a Carter, Bush or Clinton dollar coin? It is because they have not passed away.
The Eunice Shriver commemorative was a commemorative. There are a number of commems with living people. To this date there has still has not been a living person on a circulating coin.
The presidential dollar coin program is over - it ended with Reagan. That's what the law provided for, based on timelines and cutoffs.
From Dansco album - where is the discussion about the Senior Bush's coin proposal?
The Shriver commemorative is a coin, just not a circulating coin. Your statement was you had to be dead to have a coin struck in your honor ... you didn't state circulating coin. Also, IIRC, inclusion of Shriver on the commemorative was a 'one off' approved by Congress (though my memory is not strong with modern commems).
I imagine the reason for no Presidential dollar for a living president is that such an inclusion was specifically prohibited by the act that approved the Presidential dollars (again, IIRC).
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Not modern commems, but classic commems:
https://govmint.com/coin-authority/post/who-can-be-on-a-coin/
Cool ... I stand corrected ... and better informed. Thanks!
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