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Why does Heritage increase their Buyer's Premium to 25% if a medal is listed in cat other than coin?

DCWDCW Posts: 7,898 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited September 21, 2019 10:40AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Coins: 20%
Collecitibles: 25%
Same item with a 5% increase.

I know, I know...everyone calculates their bids accordingly. So nothing changes, right? Seems excessive to this bidder.

I've seen them do this in the past up to maybe $300? But never $300,000!

Edited to be more precise

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    jt88jt88 Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 21, 2019 8:48AM

    Forget ha, they push up the price a lot. Don’t buy from them. Their service are getting worst.

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    coinpalicecoinpalice Posts: 2,469 ✭✭✭✭✭

    good way to ruin a business, customer first means nothing to them

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    dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What auction is that for? The next Signature sale still shows 20%.

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    DCWDCW Posts: 7,898 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dbldie55 said:
    What auction is that for? The next Signature sale still shows 20%.

    This is for the auction happening right now. Political memorabilia

    Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
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    cardinalcardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The buyers' fee remains the same 20% for coin auctions. The other departments have those scaling buyers' fees, as those auction lots require more research to adequately describe them and photograph them. (Coins and medals are generally in the same size range for photography, but these things like dinosaur bones are quite different.)

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 17,256 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is not a new rate. I checked and saw that it was the same at least as far back as 2014.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 21, 2019 9:37AM

    A lot of tokens and medals are sold in the political category so there is a bit of cross over for exonumia collectors.

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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Plus tax and shipping makes you wonder glancing in the mirror if you can spot idiot written on your forehead?

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    ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 21, 2019 10:17AM

    @MFeld said:
    That is not a new rate. I checked and saw that it was the same at least as far back as 2014.

    @BillJones is on top of this >:)

    Apparently the socialists at the European auction houses came up with this racket first :s

    Any other late-breaking news for us? :p

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    DCWDCW Posts: 7,898 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:
    A lot of tokens and medals are sold in the political category so there is a bit of cross over for exonumia collectors.

    This is exactly what I'm talking about. Medals can be sold in either category so why the 5% hike?

    Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
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    CatbertCatbert Posts: 8,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    That is not a new rate. I checked and saw that it was the same at least as far back as 2014.

    @DCW Perhaps you should edit your thread title since it is inaccurate?

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    DCWDCW Posts: 7,898 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Catbert said:

    @MFeld said:
    That is not a new rate. I checked and saw that it was the same at least as far back as 2014.

    @DCW Perhaps you should edit your thread title since it is inaccurate?

    It is a different rate. It depends on what category the medal is listed. If lumped in with coins, which happens often, it is 20%. If in with other "collectibles" it is 25%.
    So is my title really "inaccurate?"

    Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 17,256 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 21, 2019 10:43AM

    @DCW said:

    @Catbert said:

    @MFeld said:
    That is not a new rate. I checked and saw that it was the same at least as far back as 2014.

    @DCW Perhaps you should edit your thread title since it is inaccurate?

    It is a different rate. It depends on what category the medal is listed. If lumped in with coins, which happens often, it is 20%. If in with other "collectibles" it is 25%.
    So is my title really "inaccurate?"

    With respect to the 25% buyer’s premium mentioned in your thread title, I think the answer would be:

    In 2013 (for political items), but that rate does not apply to rare coins, whose rate is unchanged.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    DCWDCW Posts: 7,898 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ok, edited to reflect more on my question as it has been pointed out that coins category remains a mere 20% BP.
    But my point is that collectors of exonumia often find their stuff lumped in with other collectibles, which are 25%. Other than, "That's the way Heritage does it in that particular auction," any thoughts?

    Sorry for confusion, folks

    Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
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    ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 21, 2019 11:31AM

    @DCW said:

    @Catbert said:

    @MFeld said:
    That is not a new rate. I checked and saw that it was the same at least as far back as 2014.

    @DCW Perhaps you should edit your thread title since it is inaccurate?

    It is a different rate. It depends on what category the medal is listed. If lumped in with coins, which happens often, it is 20%. If in with other "collectibles" it is 25%.
    So is my title really "inaccurate?"

    Inaccurate? Trollishly misleading.. Any initial reader of the headline will immediately assume it is their coin rate.
    Worthy of the National Enquirer >:)

    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
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    CatbertCatbert Posts: 8,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see that the good colonel made a comment to this thread just before this one but I can’t see it? Also can’t see any comments in aggregate when I visit his profile page.

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    DCWDCW Posts: 7,898 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf
    That is my point. Why are there different BP's?

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    DCWDCW Posts: 7,898 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, but we're talking about the EXACT same item listed in different auctions, not groceries.
    Nevermind. There really is no explanation.
    Auction rules and regs are what they are. We as bidders can decide when enough is enough

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