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I have two TrueViews to share. I had both of these guys graded raw and they came back as 63s. These both are great looking coins and look better than most of my 64s so I sent them back for reconsideration. Both came back as 63s again. I am curious to hear your thoughts on what is holding them back from a higher grade.


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  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,715 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 13, 2019 11:30AM

    I would buy that 27D as a 63 any day of the week!
    The only thing I can think of is maybe there are some light (non-parallel)hairlines that you are missing but the graders are seeing.
    After looking at the large image, I think the scrape in the field held it back. I still like that the cheek is very clean for a 63.

    Collector, occasional seller

  • TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think the one area of coin grading that often isn't considered to the extent it should be here, (because it's often lost or improperly enhanced in photos), is....luster.

    Often, great luster is the thing that gets a relatively unmarked coin from a mundane 63, to 64 or higher.

    That's not to say that these look to be lack-luster. They actually look pretty good! The problem is that TruViews tend to make the coins look their best possible.

    So, I guess as the one guy who can see them in hand, compare the liveliness of these coins to those you have that are graded 64 and higher. Maybe that will help....(maybe it won't).

    Easily distracted Type Collector
  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,814 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The cheek on that Morgan. First place you look. I see it without enlarging it.

  • goldengolden Posts: 9,991 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The cheek on the Morgan and the field on the Peace holds them to 63's.

  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with the grades assigned and would even venture to say you got lucky the peace was not bodybagged for the severity of the mark in front of the face.

    I do not think these images are sufficient for grading, personally.

    "It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll bet that both coins have continuous hairlines over their surfaces.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those grades seem to fit the category of 63....Cheers, RickO

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,835 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:
    I'll bet that both coins have continuous hairlines over their surfaces.

    I wouldn’t bet that. There already appear to be visible flaws which could fairly account for the assigned grades.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If that is the case, those are beautiful MS-63's.

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,765 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 13, 2019 1:18PM

    The coins appear to be high end if not A 63’s.

    The 1892 cheek elimates it from 64
    The 1927 left obverse gash dig knocks it from 64

    They do appear to be nice lustrous, welkstruck Coins.

    Investor

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