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Listing Disclaimer for a 1979 Topps baseball wax box
grote15
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Thought this was a rather curious caveat in the following listing:
"I cannot guarantee that these will authenticate through BBCE. If you plan to purchase and send in, that is your own option. I do not take returns on boxes or graded cards."
"I cannot guarantee that these will authenticate through BBCE. If you plan to purchase and send in, that is your own option. I do not take returns on boxes or graded cards."
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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<< <i>I would be cautious with buying a box that is wrapped in unmarked cellophane when that box was not originally released in cellophane wrapping (to my knowledge). >>
Not to mention the fact that he has listed and relisted the same boxes over and over again with same bidder with 121 FB bidding on all and only these boxes...
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
James
<< <i>with the same two buyers getting most of them. >>
doesn't that probably mean there's a couple folks willing to take the risk at those prices?
i'm seeing several different sellers say essentially the same thing. probably not the way to do business unless you know something that you aren't disclosing. similar to autographs, what's the risk of offering money back if it doesn't authenticate?
Arthur
James
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Arthur
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<< <i>The % of resealed raw wax on ebay may be lower for 1980s boxes, but for pre-1980 product, the majority of raw wax is resealed or questionable at best, in my experience. Navigating ebay for raw wax product from 1980 or earlier is an absolute minefield. >>
Exactly. And with that disclaimer, 100% change it's fraud.
Collecting Unopened from '72-'83; mostly BBCE certified boxes/cases/racks.
Prefer to buy in bulk.
<< <i>Just to add they will not give any refunds/returns. You will have to go threw eBay and even then they fought me tooth and nail. I had to have Steve speak with eBay on my behalf. Big time headache😡 >>
IMO, this is the main reason why it's not worth the risk~even though you may get your money back in the end, bidding on a questionable auction with no returns is just not worth the risk or the headache.
ETA: I'm glad you were able to get your money back in the end.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>Just to add they will not give any refunds/returns. You will have to go threw eBay and even then they fought me tooth and nail. I had to have Steve speak with eBay on my behalf. Big time headache😡 >>
Thanks for this info. That's just pretty awesome that Steve took the time to actively intercede on your behalf.
Nick
<< <i>I'd rather zip up my jeans with reckless abandon after a good squirt than buy raw unopened off ebay.
Arthur >>
Now that's funny!
This guy Springowl has sold nearly $7k in vintage packs over the last month. All of them more than likely resealed.
sold listings
I bought two raw 1987 Topps Football Wax Boxes off ebay, went 0-2. In this case the packs did look good to me. I still have the boxes, I'll probably crack them live somewhere if anyone is interested in seeing a resealed box opened.
How did you get the beans above the Frank?
The key is to price the packs so low that buyers feel like they're taking a calculated risk.
It seems like there is a never-ending source of people willing to shell out for this quite obvious scam. I am more mystified at how people can continue to perpetrate this high level fraud without any repercussions.
Where are they getting all of their wrappers with the continuous listings sellers like tbine do? It is never-ending.