Home U.S. Coin Forum

Help! Handful of kind of wild looking errors.

CoppercolorCoppercolor Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭
edited September 1, 2019 12:48PM in U.S. Coin Forum

1) 1970S proof nickel with triple S
2) 1991P Kennedy with triple face/nose/eye/chin and bust
3) 1971D Kennedy with a spike coming out of its eye across the nose and a parallel slash through the W
4) 1944 cent (not pictured) with possible double date where there appear to be serifs on the bottom of the 4’s

Does anyone know if these amount to sought after varieties ?? Wish my pics were better, struggling to upload in fact. The owner hopefully will come on and show closeups of the nickel and cent. Here are the Kennedys.

😍😍

I'd like my copper well done please!

Comments

  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coppercolor said:
    1) 1970S proof nickel with triple S
    2) 1991P Kennedy with triple face/nose/eye/chin and bust
    3) 1971D Kennedy with a spike coming out of its eye across the nose and a parallel slash through the W
    4) 1944 cent (not pictured) with possible double date where there appear to be serifs on the bottom of the 4’s

    Does anyone know if these amount to sought after varieties ?? Wish my pics were better

    Yes, I agree, pics would be great.

  • CoppercolorCoppercolor Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭
    edited September 1, 2019 12:31PM

    Here are some pics

    I'd like my copper well done please!
  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coppercolor said:
    Here are some pics

    Nothing showing up.

    Sometime the following may help:

    —Edit a previous post and insert pics

    —Precede the pic links with an emoji :)

  • CoppercolorCoppercolor Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭

    @Hemispherical said:

    @Coppercolor said:
    Here are some pics

    Nothing showing up.

    Sometime the following may help:

    —Edit a previous post and insert pics

    —Precede the pic links with an emoji :)

    @Hemispherical said:

    @Coppercolor said:
    Here are some pics

    Nothing showing up.

    Sometime the following may help:

    —Edit a previous post and insert pics

    —Precede the pic links with an emoji :)

    I got the two kennedies up. Thanks for the suggestions

    I'd like my copper well done please!
  • OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 1, 2019 12:54PM

    Hope you can work through the picture issuss. Focused and cropped pictures are essential to help evaluate the coins.

    Just an FYI. Many times, what people think are doubled dies are only mechanical doubling or die deterioration doubling. These are much more common and add no additional value to the coin. That's why pictures are needed

    Member of the ANA since 1982
  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 5,060 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 1, 2019 1:46PM

    Thanks for sharing the photos.

    50c 1971-D spike at eye is a die dent, die line or die gouge - pretty cool.
    I could not find a website which lists die dents for Kennedy halves.
    The main sites only list RPDs, RPMs, DDO, DDR, etc.
    The closest thing I found was a site that listed cuds:
    http://www.kennedyhalfdollar.com/errors/red-cuds.html
    So you might ask the person who runs that site if he has similar lists of die dents/lines/gouges.

    50c 1991-P doubled profile looks like "shelf doubling".
    Normally said to be not valuable because such doubling is not on the die and thus does not produce numerous identical examples.
    But it is a big offset, so I think it would have some value.

    5c 1970-S - 10 different RPMs are shown with photos on John Wexler's page:
    http://doubleddie.com/1469129.html

    1c 1944 RPD - it might be listed as a DDO
    http://doubleddie.com/486634.html

  • OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The spike looks like a die gouge. Cool find but it's considered a minor error. You might get a small premium if you can find the right buyer, but generally, it won't pay for the eBay fees.

    The doubled profile is due the mechanical doubling (sometimes called strike doubling). You can tell by the flat, shelf-like appearance (like @yosclimber said). This is not considered an error and has no added value. Www.doubleddie.com has a good explanation in the "worthless doubling" tab if you want to learn more. However, that's a cool example of MD and I would consider it 2x2 worthy if I found it.

    Member of the ANA since 1982
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That Kennedy with the profile mechanical doubling is interesting...much more than usual. I would keep that one as an educational tool and conversation piece. Cheers, RickO

  • CoppercolorCoppercolor Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭

    @yosclimber said:
    Thanks for sharing the photos.

    50c 1971-D spike at eye is a die dent, die line or die gouge - pretty cool.
    I could not find a website which lists die dents for Kennedy halves.
    The main sites only list RPDs, RPMs, DDO, DDR, etc.
    The closest thing I found was a site that listed cuds:
    http://www.kennedyhalfdollar.com/errors/red-cuds.html
    So you might ask the person who runs that site if he has similar lists of die dents/lines/gouges.

    50c 1991-P doubled profile looks like "shelf doubling".
    Normally said to be not valuable because such doubling is not on the die and thus does not produce numerous identical examples.
    But it is a big offset, so I think it would have some value.

    5c 1970-S - 10 different RPMs are shown with photos on John Wexler's page:
    http://doubleddie.com/1469129.html

    1c 1944 RPD - it might be listed as a DDO
    http://doubleddie.com/486634.html

    I'm not new to shelf doubling, but was unaware this could result in more than one shelf, in this case the appearance of two distinct shelves or three device edges. The owner did send me to this site, which is incredibly helpful....

    http://www.error-ref.com/push-doubling/
    J

    I'd like my copper well done please!

Leave a Comment

BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list
Emoji
Image
Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights
Drop image/file