One of the usual indications of a repaired surface.
Insider2
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This Bust dime has a repaired cheek. The tiny stippling is one of the usual diagnostics for this type of repair.
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Was it metal added, or buffing of some sort or...? Thank you for posting.
Interesting information. Thanks
It appears a flaw in the surface was removed by burnishing with stippling added to dull an otherwise too shiny and unnatural looking surface.
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Thanks for the info and photo.
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Any large area showing anything unusual grabs your eye immediately.
Stippling usually lessens that effect and can help a repair become less obvious.
Unless of course you recognize the stippling.
I’m adding folds to the grey matter. Thanks @Insider2.
stippling
-the method of painting, engraving, etc., by stippling.
-stippled work; a painting, engraving, or the like, executed by means of dots or small spots.
@Insider2 ... Thanks for the photo and information....Stippling is also used to improve the hand grips on hand guns with polymer frames....
Just to add to the trove of information that appears on this forum....Cheers, RickO
Good info. It looks like there are repeating patterns in the stippling. I imagine this would have been added using a cylindrical Dremel bit as a punch.
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Yes, it is much easier to use a multi pointed tool than to punch each depression singly.
PS Metal was not added. IMO, that is rarely done except for plugs.
The technique is similar to retouching blemishes in a standard photo (not digital). The idea is to blend color and texture to match the surrounding area. Good work will be invisible at normal viewing distance,but evident close up.
I gad to look up the word 'stippling' because I was not sure what you were talking about. I seewhat looks like die polish behind the nose, and many small round indentations all over the cheek. the 'die polishing' behind the nose is an odd place, and it looks like it is over some holes. Is this die polish, added metal or moved metal?
Stippling was always an option if type were to deminish during the run, regarding alum. plates on press.
To replace a plate was time consumming and an added cost.
I say an option in regard to the Image problem, and other factures.
With glass in one hand and tool in other this was a tenseful moment on press.
Press-Paper stock, keep this in mind.
When a die is polished it leaves scratches of various types into its surface. Metal from the planchet fills these scratches producing raised lines on the coin. What you are seeing are scratches into a struck coin, tooling, and stippling.
The usual methods I can think of done to hide a scratch on a coin:
I don't believe I've ever seen medal added to a scratch and then soothed out. EVER!
Begging is not beneath me so perhaps, a member will make one for my teaching set.
Have you ever seen a high grade early coin that had a perfect portrait and other devices, with no scratches or marks at all on the raised portions, but lots of scratches in the fields?
As if there was once some carved graffiti (letters, numbers, geometric figures, etc.) And someone else, later, added more "random looking" scratches, in attempt to make the field marks appear to be accidental rather than intentional?
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Insider, please do a thread on thumbing.
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I'm having trouble pulling images I've already taken but I shall try.
The usual methods I can think of done to hide a scratch on a coin:
as I said via PM, there are members who probably don't even know what the term "thumbing" or to "thumb a coin" means. I shall explain quickly with a short story.
about 10-12 years ago a friend of mine told me the following story: he had bought a nice MS64 PCGS Morgan, clean with Brilliant cartwheel luster except for a spot of toning on the cheek. he reasoned he could buy it as the MS64, do a quick dip to remove the tone, submit it and reap the profit when it graded MS65 on submission. when he dipped it and the tone disappeared it revealed some unseen light scrapes.
he told me he thought about what to do, that he realized the coin had been thumbed, graded and then the tone developed. he took his finger, dragged it along his face between his cheek and nose and lightly dragged it over Ms. Liberty's cheek.
Voila!!! the lines faded to nothingness, he submitted the coin and it came back as an MS64................again. I assume he sold it and called it a wash.
Not that I can recall but I'm sure they exist..
Having trouble gaining perspective. Can you please show more of or the entire coin, maybe less of a close up too?
You would not believe the coins that got into holders as TPGS graders progressed up the learning curve that we all must go through. My favorite story happened in the mid-eighties and concerned the owner of a "new" service. I pulled him aside at a major show and showed him a MS-65 dollar with an altered surface. I told him they were all over the show. I will not report what he said to me. He did not want me show him other coins in dealer's cases. What I will tell you is he said it was no big deal as the coin I had was only an 1881-S!
This alteration is now detected virtually all of the time by the four major services.
At what magnification is the pic?
Sorry, coin received and shipped out Friday. Image is "Liberty's" cheek. Her lips and ear are visible.
25X. The coin looks OK but just cleaned to the naked eye. Depending on your experience it is visible with a 7X -10X hand lens. The repair pops right out using a low power stereo (two eyes) scope and florescent light.