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  • FullHornFullHorn Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 28, 2019 6:01PM

    I would agree to Monster obverse status.

    I can imagine John Albanese saying it like a monster truck radio commercial from twenty years ago as he slaps the green bean on it.

    Edit to add about $800 too much.

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,264 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't like it. It reeks of AT. IMO.

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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No.
    I consider it very toned. I don't consider it "monster toned", nor, at that grade and look, a "monster" morgan.
    I like the greens but I don't like the color on the hose and that arc.

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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,200 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I read that as ‘green monster’ toning...not green ‘monster’. As that, it’s pretty accurate

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  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,524 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It’s not a monster nor is it AT.
    It is stronger than the average toned Morgan.

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's got some decent color but I wouldn't call it a monster.

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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,822 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just don't like the word monster.

  • SoCalBigMarkSoCalBigMark Posts: 2,802 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would call that a Munster!

  • SurfinxHISurfinxHI Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Moustious!

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  • DiggerJimDiggerJim Posts: 419 ✭✭✭✭

    I think most know my position on this by now but I enjoy repeating it.

    AT or NT. 🤮

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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Green is a money color and I don't recall ever seeing so much of a Morgan's surface covered by it, so in that regard I think it is remarkable and NT. like others, I don't put much stock in using the word "Monster" and that includes the thread stuck to the top of page one. taken as a whole our opinions really don't matter. PCGS graded it, CAC agreed and a buyer thought it was worth almost $1k.

    in the end, that's all that really matters.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The term 'monster' is a hype term denoting color, and is freely bandied about in auctions. People pay premiums for environmental damage (tarnish) when it manifests in various colors... green being desirable from my observations. Paying these monster premiums always amazes me.... save your money and do it yourself...just as many of these coins have been produced. Cheers, RickO

  • CCGGGCCGGG Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 29, 2019 5:43AM

    I've said for years that toned coins are simply environmental damaged (ED) :) , or have altered surfaces (AT) and their grades should be reduced just like a circulated coin or one that has a bad scratch, lots of bag marks, rim ding, etc. They didn't come from the mint that way.

  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe PCGS needs to start putting a "Monster" designation on the holder.

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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Could be.

  • kbbpllkbbpll Posts: 542 ✭✭✭✭

    The toning appears to radiate from a hole/defect in the holder. Not sure what that means but figured I'd point it out.

  • ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,796 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not a monster, but pretty decent toning. The photos shown put the color all over the map. If the toned area is dull or has minimal luster, then it's not all that great.

    I don't think that hole has to do with anything on the toning.

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,068 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Monster? Why that term for a beautifully toned coin? From where I come from “Monster” is an ugly scary thing😂. To each their own I guess.

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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @kbbpll said:
    The toning appears to radiate from a hole/defect in the holder. Not sure what that means but figured I'd point it out.

    That's the light reflection off the side of the prong holding the coin in place.

    The coin is natural, the green is very nice. I like it more than an average toned dollar, but it would need to be much brighter (lots more lustre and/or more reflective fields, and well as bolder and brighter color) at the very least to be a monster.

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  • HigashiyamaHigashiyama Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with @airplanenut.

    I suspect that the coin is nice or very nice, but would need to have the coin in hand to say for sure. With that said, probably not in the monster category.

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  • SiriusBlackSiriusBlack Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ms70 said:
    Maybe PCGS needs to start putting a "Monster" designation on the holder.

    With a little Frankenstein logo!

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  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I used to own a coin just like this.
    Could be same one. I called it exorcist lady. It was over 10 years ago.

    I didn’t call it monster, never do.
    I always have to wonder if the folks that say no monster, If they were selling if it would all of a sudden change and turn monster. 😊
    Not necessarily this thread but all the threads on this subject through the years.

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  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,524 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 29, 2019 8:49AM

    @stman said:
    I used to own a coin just like this.
    Could be same one. I called it exorcist lady. It was over 10 years ago.

    I didn’t call it monster, never do.
    I always have to wonder if the folks that say no monster, If they were selling if it would all of a sudden change and turn monster. 😊
    Not necessarily this thread but all the threads on this subject through the years.

    I try to avoid using monster in general as I think only a few coins qualify for the term. I’d probably call it a “high-end” toner if selling (above average toner just wouldn’t work too well from a marketing perspective :D ).

  • kbbpllkbbpll Posts: 542 ✭✭✭✭

    @airplanenut - you're probably right. The little bit above the prong is what I was seeing, it looks shattered on first glance but probably just lighting. a coincidence that the bands of toning radiate from that spot I guess.

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    here's a Monster, but he seems to be restrained at the moment. I don't know what will happen if he ever frees himself.

  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It has all the requirements of a monster provided it's no darker in hand. Then again, there are differing levels of monster.

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  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,640 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The price is a monster for sure....

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  • lowcountrycoinutlowcountrycoinut Posts: 177 ✭✭✭

    Close, but not quite in my humble view

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  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Doesn't look at all like Godzilla. As for the rest of the seller's claims, would have to see a good photo first.

    PS: The tarnish cannot have come from the holder defect. If that were the the case, the color would be darker at the defect and fade away with increasing distance.

  • thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I guess the one and only bidder thought it was. Just not my cup of tea, personally. To each his own though.

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  • dalladalla69dalladalla69 Posts: 61 ✭

    Thanks for all the feedback. It's good to know.

  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 6,024 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It’s got a CAC sticker too
    I like it!

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,233 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't like the toning, jmo

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