First Newp/GTG that I have done on the forum, 1938 Proof Walker - Grade posted
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Hi everyone, I don't normally post my new purchases or do guess the grades, but I'm just too excited. I've spent the better part of the past 2 years looking for the perfect walker for my collection (to finish my 20th century half dollar type set) while only spending a reasonable price for the date/grade and finding a coin that I thought that was just exceptional. I don't know how many walkers I looked at before I saw this one. I bought it solely based on photographs. She's a 1938 proof.
Guesses and actual comments welcome. What do you think it would grade at NGC? Or I guess PCGS and CAC too.
The photos aren't the best because they were taken with my cell phone, I hope they do her justice. I'm away from my better camera for a couple weeks. I will post the grade in 24 hours.
Thank you @JBN for letting me bother you a number of times over the past year and giving me your thoughts on different coins I saw.
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How about a 67*? Looks frosty to me
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I'll base my guess of PR67 on your statement and the price guides. The coin looks very nice, but it's close to impossible to tell a PR65 from a PR68 from photos, especially with hairlined holder.
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It is impossible to see all grade limiting hairlines on proof coins in a photo, and hairlines often only show at certain angles when illuminated. The poor condition of the slab makes it even harder. I'll leave it at nice coin but awful holder. I would have it reholdered.
Yeah the holder isn't in the best shape unfortunately. I've never sent a coin in for grading/reholder before so that would be a new experience. I have one other PCGS coin I wouldn't mind getting re-holdered though.
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Beauty!!!
I will agree with the other 67's and assume the scratches are on the holder. Cannot tell for sure.
The holder will polish out by hand with PlastX.
I think you have a proof 66 coin that has some cameo going on there.
Nice if the lines are on the holder.
rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
Looks nice in the photos.
I would guess 66+* CAC
I agree. As some other posters have stated (differently), it’s folly to try to grade Proof coins based on their images. And that’s even if their holders and images are superb.
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I had the twin of this coin, and it was PR65.
PF66+*
I'm going to take a wild guess and say proof-65.
Nice Walker, regardless.
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Looks darn nice.
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Do the holders get scuffed up from being handled too much? Tossed about from repeated rejections that it has been cleaned/dipped? Just how does a coin refrain from toning for 81 years? I have a few early Jefferson nickel proofs and unfortunately a couple have been dipped in their time.
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All I can say is WOW, I have looked for a Walker like this for a long time, great catch.
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Proofs have to be seen in hand. They are very difficult to photograph, especially if they are already in a slab. Minor hairlines can be hidden by overexposure.
I am a long time PlastX user ( there is a bottle within arm reach of my favorite chair at all times) PlastX works great on PCGS plastic, not so much on NGC. NGC will clean up only a bit those scratches are going nowhere.
That WLH appears to be a very nice proof coin.... I will not hazard a guess on grade... too much light and lines on slab...If you are happy with the coin in hand, then that is great - and your comments on the price indicate that was favorable as well. Cheers, RickO
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My wag is PR65, congrats on the new addition.
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GRADE POST: It's actually a Pr66* CAC. A bunch of posters were all pretty close! I didn't have the budget for a 68 unfortunately
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I felt that this coin is probably one of the closest to cameo Walkers that I could purchase without actually having the designation and having pay 10x the price for it.
As someone who doesn't submit coins for grading, is there a best way to get it reholdered if I wanted? I don't have CAC privileges either so getting the sticker put back on would be another problem in itself... Not enough cameo to warrant an outright re-submission to try to get lucky I don't think?
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It's a beautiful coin.
I don't know if you have to be an NGC Collectors member to get the slab replaced. I know it's only a few bucks and they will be doing work like this in Chicago (if by chance you're going to the ANA.
A Dealer friend who is can get it done for you whether present or shipping.
CAC should resticker it provided the coin number stays the same.
You may want to call them first.
Pretty coin. Nice cameo contrast.
It will not cameo, as the sun isn't frosted, so I wouldn't bother with a resubmission.
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In my experience, 1938 has more near cameos than any other year for Walkers. 1941 is probably second. Yours is very nice.
Very nice coin. Congrats!
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Congratulations!
It is nice to see that the near cameo condition was mentioned in the comments above.
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WLH proofs are wondrous in general; yours, with its lack of distractions, brightness, cameo attributes, and as an earlier date in the series, is very near the top specifically.
My guess was PF67. Very nice addition! I want an example someday... Like you, I'm waiting for the right example.
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My experience is just the opposite. Both in terms of frosted "just miss" coins (including NGC star coins) and actually designated coins from most common to least common: 1942, 1938, 1939, and then the rest - 1936-37/1940-41.