1950-D Jefferson "High Mint Mark"

jdimmick · July 20, 2019 3:05PM

Has anybody ever seen a mint mark this high up on a 1950-D Jefferson, cant say that I ever seen one this high

Hemispherical · July 20, 2019 3:07PM

Now that’s a high MM!

Hallco · July 20, 2019 3:23PM

MIght be added.

coinkat · July 20, 2019 3:29PM

Not to be more difficult than usual, you might consider posting a picture of he obverse of the coin as well

JBK · July 20, 2019 3:32PM

If real, that is great!

CCDollar · July 20, 2019 3:34PM

Interesting...one for comparison...

CC

jdimmick · July 20, 2019 3:44PM

obv

dcarr · July 20, 2019 4:39PM

I strongly suspect that the whole coin is of modern Asian manufacture.

Insider2 · July 20, 2019 5:06PM

I strongly agree!

@dcarr said:
I strongly suspect that the whole coin is of modern Asian manufacture.

jmski52 · July 20, 2019 5:10PM

I don't think I've ever seen a circulated 50D, and the obverse does look like it's been "conditioned".

bolivarshagnasty · July 20, 2019 5:21PM

I've never seen any mintmark that high on a Jefferson. Would make sense that this is a Chinese 50-D.

mr1931S · July 20, 2019 5:25PM

I suspect counterfeit. I've never seen a Jefferson nickel of any year with a mint mark placement so high.

'50-D's did circulate some but most didn't.

drei3ree · July 20, 2019 6:13PM

@Insider2 said:
I strongly agree!

@dcarr said:
I strongly suspect that the whole coin is of modern Asian manufacture.

CaptHenway · July 20, 2019 7:20PM

Have handled hundreds of 1950-D nickels, many of them circulated, and never saw one this position. 99.999999% sure added D in wrong position.

mannie gray · July 21, 2019 12:01AM

@CaptHenway said:
Have handled hundreds of 1950-D nickels, many of them circulated, and never saw one this position. 99.999999% sure added D in wrong position.

Yep.

ricko · July 21, 2019 4:43AM

That certainly stands out from the normal mint mark position....lends credence to the 'fake' theory.... Though I am not sure why anyone would counterfeit one....Cheers, RickO

BUFFNIXX · July 21, 2019 5:00AM

Whitman used to have openings in the Barber half dollar folder for 1894-s high S and 1894-s low S mintmark varieties.
Collectors complained about this, saying mintmark positioning was minor and eventually Whitman did consolidate these
two holes in the folder into one with no mention of mintmark position. However I think this may become a desired variety
because it is so obvious.

CaptHenway · July 21, 2019 6:48AM

@ricko said:
That certainly stands out from the normal mint mark position....lends credence to the 'fake' theory.... Though I am not sure why anyone would counterfeit one....Cheers, RickO

Probably done in the 1960's when they were worth up to $20 and $20 was worth the effort. There was a counterfeiting ring that made fake mint marks by the thousands and glued them on to thousands of coins.

leothelyon · July 21, 2019 7:05AM

If you can imagine a circle clock in the mint mark area, I have 4 50-D's with MMs at the 7:00 and 4:00 positions. The OP's example is at the 11:00 position so it's not too far up and to the left from where it should be. Likely caught early during production. Why a working die was stamped and shipped to Denver in that position and no-one noticed until after it was struck? So....if it's legit and an early correction to the reverse die and possibly a batch destruction was made......are there ghost MMs out there in that position? A high mint state example would have turned up years ago, that is, if there aren't too many mint state rolls awaiting to surface out there. Why anyone would waste their time moving a mint mark on a worn nickel or added to a 50-P? Not pauseable imo other than someone practicing their skills.

Leo

Insider2 · July 21, 2019 7:44AM

@CaptHenway said:
Have handled HUNDREDS of 1950-D nickels, many of them circulated, and never saw one this position. 99.999999% sure added D in wrong position.

LOL, I think you are being very modest with your count.

OldEastside · July 21, 2019 7:53AM

WOW.......that looks way off

Steve

OldEastside · July 21, 2019 7:56AM

@CaptHenway said:

@ricko said:
That certainly stands out from the normal mint mark position....lends credence to the 'fake' theory.... Though I am not sure why anyone would counterfeit one....Cheers, RickO

Probably done in the 1960's when they were worth up to $20 and $20 was worth the effort. There was a counterfeiting ring that made fake mint marks by the thousands and glued them on to thousands of coins.

There was a time when rolls of 50D Jeffs went a grand or more

Steve

Hemispherical · July 21, 2019 8:17AM

Must have been part of the Apollo 11 mission, it launched!

CaptHenway · July 21, 2019 8:33AM

@leothelyon said:
If you can imagine a circle clock in the mint mark area, I have 4 50-D's with MMs at the 7:00 and 4:00 positions. The OP's example is at the 11:00 position so it's not too far up and to the left from where it should be. Likely caught early during production. Why a working die was stamped and shipped to Denver in that position and no-one noticed until after it was struck? So....if it's legit and an early correction to the reverse die and possibly a batch destruction was made......are there ghost MMs out there in that position? A high mint state example would have turned up years ago, that is, if there aren't too many mint state rolls awaiting to surface out there. Why anyone would waste their time moving a mint mark on a worn nickel or added to a 50-P? Not pauseable imo other than someone practicing their skills.

Leo

Read what I said just above your post.

Let's say that the forger got $10 for it at a coin show in 1962. Adjusting for inflation, that $10 was equivalent to over $83 today.

https://www.dollartimes.com/inflation/inflation.php?amount=10&year=1962

amwldcoin · July 21, 2019 10:45AM

Hmmm, makes me wanna look through the rolls of 50-D's I have. Just take too long to find them. I probably have 400 or so pieces...not rolls.

coinkat · July 21, 2019 1:16PM

I asked for an obverse picture thinking that there may be a Jefferson expert that might have an insight to whether the coin had characteristics consistent with the Philadelphia issue.

While I am willing to be objective, the question that seems to bother me... That is if it is authentic... Is why is this mint mark placement being noticed for the first time now instead of 50 years ago when they were hoarded and had greater value?

mannie gray · July 21, 2019 10:52PM

It is not authentic.

mannie gray · July 21, 2019 10:57PM

@CaptHenway said:

@ricko said:
That certainly stands out from the normal mint mark position....lends credence to the 'fake' theory.... Though I am not sure why anyone would counterfeit one....Cheers, RickO

Probably done in the 1960's when they were worth up to $20 and $20 was worth the effort. There was a counterfeiting ring that made fake mint marks by the thousands and glued them on to thousands of coins.

Yeah I know this is true.
I bought one when I was about ten years old and when I found out I had been duped I was crushed.
I had spent several weeks of paper route money for it....likely $15 or so.
It made me want to learn more though....and perhaps inspired me to dive into varieties.

BuffaloIronTail · July 22, 2019 8:29AM

@ricko said:
That certainly stands out from the normal mint mark position....lends credence to the 'fake' theory.... Though I am not sure why anyone would counterfeit one....Cheers, RickO

I agree wholeheartedly. If it was manufactured years ago, why did it take so long to get noticed?

Sure are some strange coins posted here. Go figure.

Pete

johnny9434 · July 22, 2019 11:09AM

if they would have left it alone and put the d where its supposed to go it would be a bit more believable

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