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Bob13Bob13 Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭✭✭

I’ve been trying to put together a set of “old holdered” (rattlers, OGH, Fatties - I will also include blue “series” holders) commems with some color and nice eye appeal. The numerical grades are usually pretty modest.

But, been having a heck of a time finding a Grant that meets the above criteria. Perhaps in a moment of weakness I purchased this Grant which caught my eye. It’s in an “oldER” NGC holder.

Anyway, thoughts welcome and guess the grade if you like. I’ll reveal tomorrow. These are direct sunlight iPhone photos but I think do a good job matching the in hand appearance.





My current "Box of 20"

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    StuartStuart Posts: 9,831 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 22, 2019 3:44PM

    @Bob13 That’s a nice looking Grant Commemorative Half Dollar. — I’ll Guess NGC MS-62


    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

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    JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 4,109 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin but am I the only one that gets turned off by scuffed up plastic ? Why don't people take more pride in their treasures ? I've been buying PSA baseball cards and I have yet to receive one with plastic even close to this. As a matter of fact either they've all been just slabbed or baseball card guys take better care of the holders.

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    ChangeInHistoryChangeInHistory Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭✭✭

    From the first picture, it looked a bit washed out, but based on the other photos, I'll guess 64

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    SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Love the color and eye appeal. You ticked both the boxes.
    I would guess it's a 64.
    Love it.

    "Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso

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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 10,395 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Coins always look washed out in direct sunlight but this one still looks good.

    I bet that it's stunning in hand.

    Congrats!!

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

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    IndulgerIndulger Posts: 139 ✭✭✭

    I’ll go 63

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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63 and a nice look

    m

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with the 63 voters.... Cheers, RickO

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 17,224 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My guess is MS64. Grant commemoratives are typically found with conspicuous die polish lines, which can easily be mistaken for hairlines.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,941 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin. Love the color.

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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 10,067 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 23, 2019 5:59AM

    I really like your Grant. It appears to be a nice 64 at the very least. It has amazing blue and russet toning really nice eye appeal. It fills the slot for sure.

    Classic Commems cheaper than they were 30 years ago I believe. I think nowhere to go but up

    Investor
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    shishshish Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice 64

    Liberty Seated and Trade Dollar Specialist
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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    My guess is MS64. Grant commemoratives are typically found with conspicuous die polish lines, which can easily be mistaken for hairlines.

    Why do you think that was? It sure makes them weird lookiing. Detracts from the obverse design a lot.

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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,052 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 17,224 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @topstuf said:

    @MFeld said:
    My guess is MS64. Grant commemoratives are typically found with conspicuous die polish lines, which can easily be mistaken for hairlines.

    Why do you think that was? It sure makes them weird lookiing. Detracts from the obverse design a lot.

    Sorry, I don’t know. As many here, know, the Grant/Star issue displays similar characteristics.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭✭

    Grants are usually ugly. This appears well above average.

    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 11,016 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's a beautiful coin. The poor holder has seen better days.
    I want to guess higher, but my first instinct was 62 for some reason.

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    derrybderryb Posts: 38,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i'd remove the slab scratches with PlastX.

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    Bob13Bob13 Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The worst part is... I did try to get the scratches out already.

    I used Slab Renew, which I think works pretty well on PCGS holders. @derryb Does PlastX work better on NGC?

    No hairlines to my eye - these are raised die polish lines sometimes found on these and a few others from the era.

    I'll see if anymore feedback before revealing the grade tonight. Thanks all for the comments.

    My current "Box of 20"

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    derrybderryb Posts: 38,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PlastX, sometimes more than one application. Renews fogged headlights as well.

    "Money does not care about speeches on morality. Capital asks whether the rules will remain the same tomorrow. With inflation, people assume price is the problem, and propose regulation—but price is simply the message." - Martin Armstrong

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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've had GOOD luck with Simichrome.

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    thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Bob13 said:
    I’ve been trying to put together a set of “old holdered” (rattlers, OGH, Fatties - I will also include blue “series” holders) commems with some color and nice eye appeal. The numerical grades are usually pretty modest.

    Very cool set idea. Id love to see some group photos sometime!

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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS62

    slab hairlines :( I would try Goo Gone and not completely remove or dry the stuff

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    thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Bob13 Thank you. Amazing! Very well-done!

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    gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Super collection. Thanks for sharing.

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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,254 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 23, 2019 11:00AM

    I’m gonna stick my neck out and call it a 65. The Grant happens to be one of favorite old commemoratives. It’s the trees that I find so attractive.
    Whatever the grade congratulations on such a pretty piece.
    Joe

    Edited to say what a beautiful collection you have there my coin brother. Very impressive 👌🏻

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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I hate threads that make me order another coin. :D

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 34,301 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll go ms 64 as well

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    drei3reedrei3ree Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭✭

    I like all things US Grant and I travel to Grant's Farm several times a year! Pretty comm. and I give it a 63.

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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Bob13 said:
    The worst part is... I did try to get the scratches out already.

    I used Slab Renew, which I think works pretty well on PCGS holders. @derryb Does PlastX work better on NGC?

    No hairlines to my eye - these are raised die polish lines sometimes found on these and a few others from the era.

    I'll see if anymore feedback before revealing the grade tonight. Thanks all for the comments.

    Scratches on NGC holders are very difficult to remove. PlastX and Slab Renew (which is just Novus repackaged and price bumped) don't work well on the softer plastic NGC uses.

    Another reason to buy PCGS!
    Lance.

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    MarkMark Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll guess it's a 63, largely because it is in an older slab. I'd guess a higher grade if it was more recently graded, in a newer slab.

    Mark


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    Bob13Bob13 Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks all for the comments.

    It’s a 63. But as mentioned - I like the look.

    My current "Box of 20"

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    DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it's an MS 64.

    There's no slab that can't be buffed out. I've used 2000 grit sandpaper then PlastX a few times.

    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DollarAfterDollar said:
    I think it's an MS 64.

    There's no slab that can't be buffed out. I've used 2000 grit sandpaper then PlastX a few times.

    True. If you're willing to go that route. @bolivarshagnasty, show us your video of a truly mutilated slab.
    Lance.

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    axelrichaxelrich Posts: 43 ✭✭

    The colors looks interesting..

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    CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks nice. My guess is MS63.

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    bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,359 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lkeigwin said:

    @DollarAfterDollar said:
    I think it's an MS 64.

    There's no slab that can't be buffed out. I've used 2000 grit sandpaper then PlastX a few times.

    True. If you're willing to go that route. @bolivarshagnasty, show us your video of a truly mutilated slab.
    Lance.

    No video. A few pics.








    Sanding slab as you would a high end paint job. Rouge on a bench buffer to finish up.
    Note, early slabs respond well. Newer PCGS and all NGC not so much.

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